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Re: Carb
Originally Posted by jrlj
Before this fiasco I didn't even know about this forum. He told me to keep his carb, not my idea. I offered to sell it and give him $$. He declined. He said keep it for your trouble. He made a mistake and took care of it. Took a while, but I got my carb back. Some of you should get a life and quit stiring the pot. Our deal is complete on the terms HE stated. The end.
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Re: Carb
Originally Posted by lively
Originally Posted by jrlj
Before this fiasco I didn't even know about this forum. He told me to keep his carb, not my idea. I offered to sell it and give him $$. He declined. He said keep it for your trouble. He made a mistake and took care of it. Took a while, but I got my carb back. Some of you should get a life and quit stiring the pot. Our deal is complete on the terms HE stated. The end.
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I agree with Lively,too.Do your part.Do the right thing
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Nah, go ahead and keep the carb and then we will all know you the kind of man you present yourself to be...and want others to recognize you....
So now do you really think it is the right thing to do and we are all full of crap and your the only smart and honest man on here... Oh yea, we are real glad to know you and welcome to the forums and I am sure you will have lots of friends on here now.... |
I mean,if he told you it was an honest mistake,and then paid to send you the carb,out of his pocket.The least you could do is return the favor.How much would it really cost to send it?$15-20 at the most?Or,did you decide to be greedy and keep his carb for free?Which is the same as stealing it,if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by olds48
I mean,if he told you it was an honest mistake,and then paid to send you the carb,out of his pocket.The least you could do is return the favor.How much would it really cost to send it?$15-20 at the most?Or,did you decide to be greedy and keep his carb for free?Which is the same as stealing it,if you ask me.
To me it is sort of like when the girl at the retauraunt acidentally gives you back too much change. It wasn't your fault..it was her mistake. If you are a scumbag you just keep it and go on about your day...then she gets to pay the money back because it was her mistake. A decent person gives it back. The title of this thread is acurate..because you sure don't want to be doing ANY dealing with this jrlj guy...not in a million years. But I guess I should just get a life cause I am just a trouble making troll. :lol: |
Tod74 wrote: "a decent persom gives it back"
Well said,man. |
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I really don't think he is going to answer, I say my carb is sold !
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Hey guys JRLJ just sent me a message, he slammed me for making him look bad on here, i told him that i only done what was right. [sending carb back] I told him i didn't make him look bad he done that all by himself!!!!!!!
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not quite. asked you to act the same on here as privately.
Tod74 at least use a good analogy. how bout the waitress gives you the wrong food, terrible service, and then badmouths you, comes back and says sorry, I was wrong, please take this food for free on me because of what I've done. much more accurate. when mark called he was very clear he wanted me to keep his carb for the hassle, did not want anything in return, I offered, told him that was not necessary, he insisted, said he was sorry for all the bad words and hassle, then gets on here and acts like I ripped him off. thanks for all of you keyboard racers. good luck to mark, he needs it |
Re: carb
Originally Posted by jrlj
not quite. asked you to act the same on here as privately.
Tod74 at least use a good analogy. how bout the waitress gives you the wrong food, terrible service, and then badmouths you, comes back and says sorry, I was wrong, please take this food for free on me because of what I've done. much more accurate. when mark called he was very clear he wanted me to keep his carb for the hassle, did not want anything in return, I offered, told him that was not necessary, he insisted, said he was sorry for all the bad words and hassle, then gets on here and acts like I ripped him off. thanks for all of you keyboard racers. good luck to mark, he needs it Have a wonderful summer. |
To err is human...To blame someone else shows good management skills.
the man made a mistake and corrected it -----"YOU CROOKED HIM FOR THAT FACT" :oops: :oops: BY KEEPING HIS CARB EVEN IF HE TOLD YOU TO KEEP IT!!!!---THE TRUE SPIRIT OF A MAN COMES OUT BY HIS EXPRESSED ACTIONS--BE A REAL HONEST MAN AND SEND HIS CARB BACK!!! 8) 8) -LIVELY IN ILLINOIS |
My dad always told me that you never really know a man until you do business with him.Sad but true.
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You should sell the carb., Keep what you think is fair for your troubles and send him what is left over. I think the guy deserves something for his headache and it was insisted that he take it.
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Originally Posted by 67ss396chevelle
You should sell the carb., Keep what you think is fair for your troubles and send him what is left over. I think the guy deserves something for his headache and it was insisted that he take it.
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Well to start with mop made the offer for him to keep it. I think a fair resolution to both parties would be to SELL the carb and split the money. Obviuosly mop sees something wrong in his dealings (intentional or not) and made an offer to rectify the situation. if you think that is not a fair offer then you should tell mop "that was a stupid thing to do". Maybe jrlj values his time more than you do and feels like this is fair. you fellas act as if jrlj is stealing his carb when that is in no way the case. I assume mop is a grown man that can make decisions on his own whether good or bad he still made it. in short, live with the decision you made.. good or bad.
I hope I didnt ruffle too many feathers. its just my .02. |
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I would say you ruffled a few. believe me they will let you know quick !!! What i don't understand you have been on here for 3-4 years now posted two post both on my thread?
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Indeed Mopar you raise an interesting point re 67SS.
But I wanted to comment on what I think everyone is trying to get at. You make a mistake, a bad deal whatever. Both sides are unhappy, but there is one side who feels it important to make the first move. So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb. JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy. When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money. But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners. Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board. JR, returning it would buy you the same. My opinion as always, Later |
Re: carb
Originally Posted by mopar1968
I would say you ruffled a few. believe me they will let you know quick !!! What i don't understand you have been on here for 3-4 years now posted two post both on my thread?
Mop I am sorry things got messed up in your deal but I wouldnt let these guys bash on jrlj for accepting an offer you made. Chalk it up to experience and be sure the next person you deal with has pictures of what you are sending them. |
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If you can read this thread was started long before i said ''keep the carb'' no it wouldn't have made a difference how many post you had, the point is i can't control what people say on here, nor will i try to control it. They are all grown up and can do and say what they want!!! oh by the way do you have a profile so we know with whom we are talking to?
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LET US GO WITH THIS LINE--- 67ss396chevelle--THE ?? WAS RAISED ABOUT YOUR POST[ WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW IMPOSTER POSTS ON HERE BUT THAT WAS FOUND OUT BY THE MODERATOR :oops:] --YOU HAVE BEEN HERE 3 YEARS AND DO NOT HAVE A PROFILE FILLED OUT??/ YOU NEVER POSTED BEFOR THIS TIME?? YOU HAVE NO LOCATION ON YOUR AVATAR?? AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY OTHER RACERS ARE SUSPICIOUS :? :? ----READ THE WHOLE POST AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS[ WE ARE 100% RIGHT ON THIS DEAL AND BOTH SIDES KNOW IT!!---THIS BUNCH OF GUYS AND GALS HAS SAVED LITERALLY $1000'S OF DOLLARS FOR OUR FELLOW RACERS BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO/ AND TRIED TO SETTLE SOME PRETTY NASTY DISPUTES/ AND HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD 8) 8) ---YOU MIGHT WANT TO FILL OUT YOUR PROFILE AND BE A OPEN MEMBER ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT NEED OUR HELP ;TOO---LIVELY
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Re: carb
Originally Posted by mopar1968
Yep thats right no carb at all, lost the dominator i first traded for, then lost the 750 demon, then lost the 850 demon, done this just to keep down trouble, i am a firm believer that things come to those who does wrong towards others!!! WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! and also lost $130.00 in shipping cost!
Yes mop I can read LOL. If it were me I would try to explain to these guys that seem to be coming down on jrlj that I was the one that GAVE him my carb because of a mistake I made. Seeing as how you were the one that made the mistake in representing your carb as something it was not (unintentionally ok) it would seem only fair that jrlj was not responsible for your $130 loss. as for the 3 carbs you say you lost well I dont know where the dominator came into play but the 850 was the property of jrlj from the start and you gave up the 750. I guess the only one you could have lost would be the dominator but dont know the story on that one. Maybe what you say is right, and when jrlj offers compensation for a deal gone bad because of him they will accept it and "what went around came around" I dont in any way want you to thik I am attacking you personally mop. like I said before just my opinion on the matter. |
Originally Posted by lively
LET US GO WITH THIS LINE--- 67ss396chevelle--THE ?? WAS RAISED ABOUT YOUR POST[ WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW IMPOSTER POSTS ON HERE BUT THAT WAS FOUND OUT BY THE MODERATOR :oops:] --YOU HAVE BEEN HERE 3 YEARS AND DO NOT HAVE A PROFILE FILLED OUT??/ YOU NEVER POSTED BEFOR THIS TIME?? YOU HAVE NO LOCATION ON YOUR AVATAR?? AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY OTHER RACERS ARE SUSPICIOUS :? :? ----READ THE WHOLE POST AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS[ WE ARE 100% RIGHT ON THIS DEAL AND BOTH SIDES KNOW IT!!---THIS BUNCH OF GUYS AND GALS HAS SAVED LITERALLY $1000'S OF DOLLARS FOR OUR FELLOW RACERS BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO/ AND TRIED TO SETTLE SOME PRETTY NASTY DISPUTES/ AND HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD 8) 8) ---YOU MIGHT WANT TO FILL OUT YOUR PROFILE AND BE A OPEN MEMBER ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT NEED OUR HELP ;TOO---LIVELY
and I have actually been here 4 years 1 month and 9 days which is longer than your 3 years 4 months and 18 days..not that it matters :lol: |
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First of all no-one said anything about me misrepresenting the carb i had untill now, so it is either you know Jim or related to him watching this forum to see what is going on. some folks may get a laugh from this but only myself and Jim talked about the carb's and what they were, so how did you find out about the carbs? the dominator came in because it went first for the 750 carb Jim now has, and like i told Jim if you would care to read the complete thread, everyone on here knows what i told jim. Y ou seem to know alittle more for some reason.
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Re: carb
Originally Posted by mopar1968
First of all no-one said anything about me misrepresenting the carb i had untill now, so it is either you know Jim or related to him watching this forum to see what is going on. some folks may get a laugh from this but only myself and Jim talked about the carb's and what they were, so how did you find out about the carbs? the dominator came in because it went first for the 750 carb Jim now has, and like i told Jim if you would care to read the complete thread, everyone on here knows what i told jim. Y ou seem to know alittle more for some reason.
> > > > > > Mark, problem, yousaid you had a 750 mighty demon and sent me a speed demon. I did not want a speed demon, I wanted a mighty demon. what now? Jim 541-396-8025 I have read the post but maybe you have not. maybe that is where all the confusion came from to begin with? I dont know jrlj at all but if we were brothers would it change what actually went on even a little bit? NO. In fact the above post indicates a post was made stating you did misrepresent (not intentionally maybe) what you had. I think its funny how your trying to find some kind of flaw or conspiracy in my post. you posted that you LOST the dominator in this thread as if you losing it had something to do with jrlj when in fact it doesnt. |
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Indeed Mopar you raise an interesting point re 67SS.
But I wanted to comment on what I think everyone is trying to get at. You make a mistake, a bad deal whatever. Both sides are unhappy, but there is one side who feels it important to make the first move. So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb. JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy. When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money. But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners. Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board. JR, returning it would buy you the same. My opinion as always, Later BINGO!! |
Re: Idiot
Originally Posted by jrlj
Please read the post. Guy is an idiot. I don't want his carb and have made it clear. I DO want him to pay for the return shipping because it is his fault he mislead/lied/didn't know/can't read or take your pick. He offered to swap his 750 mighty demon for my 850 mighty demon, I shipped him mine, 5 days later he shipped his. He sent me a speed demon, In the original speed demon bag, part # on bag, in a speed demon box and says "I thought it was a mighty demon" $25 to ship his carb back for his screw up, he can pay it!
Even the box read SPEED DEMON? ok lets answer some simple questions fellas.. Who misrepresented what they had (accident or not)? Who represented what they had correctly? Who rerouted the carb they were returning? Who evers fault it was (manager, janitor or the butler) it still happened. Who was it that said "keep my carb for your troubles? Why did you wait 5 days to ship your carb to him? Who came on here and made the original post (maybe prematurely)? If it were me I would sell the carb for $150 or whatever I could get out of it and send you (mop) half. Maybe jrlj does deserve something for his headache. |
YOU KNOW YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD WHERE YOU ARE FROM :oops: :oops: --SOMETHING STILL DON'T MAKE SENCE HERE ON YOUR POSTS-YOU SEEM TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DEAL 8) 8)
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Originally Posted by lively
YOU KNOW YOU STILL HAVE NOT TOLD WHERE YOU ARE FROM :oops: :oops: --SOMETHING STILL DON'T MAKE SENCE HERE ON YOUR POSTS-YOU SEEM TO KNOW AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DEAL 8) 8)
LIVELY Dude if you would go and read ALL the post that have been made then maybe you would see what I see. it makes SENSE that you all are bashing jrlj because no one has read the ENTIRE story. Its all there in the very first post. |
Re: Racers beware of jrlj :
Originally Posted by mopar1968
This guy has taken me for a demon carb, can someone tell me how to post all of our messages on this parts trade? ad# 1096959 his name is JR Spano 61406 So third str AS YOU CAN SEE I SENT THIS GUYS CARB BACK TO HIM.
ADVANCED SEARCH HOMEPOST ADBROWSESEARCHADS BY DAYMOST RECENTMOST POPULARHONOR PAYMENTFORUMHELP! Welcome Back: mopar1968 My AdsMy AccountMy FavoritesMy MessagesMy Profile LOGOUT Racing Classifieds | Store | RJ News | News | RJ Rides | Photos & Videos | MotorcycleAds | BoatingJunk | Directory | Contests My Messages [ inbox | sent | trash ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jrlj To: mopar1968 Date: 2008-02-19 21:38:22 Subject: Re: carb Re: Ad #1096959 Message: went to ship your carb today, $36 priority mail, $24 parcel post, $29 ups, I'm not paying this twice for YOUR mistake, let me know how you want it shhipped, maybe cod. On [2008-02-18 20:54:32] mopar1968 wrote: > did you get my carb out today? > > On [2008-02-17 11:14:54] jrlj wrote: > > When I made this deal with you I felt good about it because I wasn't dealing with a kid. My bad. Because someone sold you the wrong thing and you apparently make no effort to identify it, you basically call me a liar. Don't like that. IF you would look on Barry Grant's website you can see each model, IF you look at the dealers ads you can see the the difference, same with Jegs. Because someone else does the same as you doesn't make it so, On top of it being in a bag with part number and a box that says SPEED DEMON. Detectives call this a clue. I am out time and money because you don't know what you have, but some guy told it was this. I assumed you knew the difference. Your carb left your place 5 days after I gave you a #. I will ship your carb back. I already have this exact model. > > > > On [2008-02-16 23:48:05] mopar1968 wrote: > > > You need to ship mine back to me, i need a tracking number monday, i have allready sent yours back, given you a tracking number. i am not trying to be a butthole either, i have done the right thing, but you haven't as of yet! > > > > > > On [2008-02-14 21:08:48] jrlj wrote: > > > > Mark, not trying to be a butthead but I would like to get this resolved quickly. I sent that carb off almost 2 weeks ago. You shipped yours faster, but days later. Really don't want this to drag on for weeks. I turned down 3 other offers after I made a deal with you. Like I said before, the box has the part # and states "speed demon" on it. Let me know. thanx, JR > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-14 16:48:51] mopar1968 wrote: > > > > > i had never owned one before, or ran one, the guy i got it from said it was a mighty demon, i ran it for about 30 minutes and didn't like it, was going to sell it.i went back to my holley. what do you have in mind? > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-14 14:06:12] jrlj wrote: > > > > > > Mark, problem, yousaid you had a 750 mighty demon and sent me a speed demon. I did not want a speed demon, I wanted a mighty demon. what now? Jim 541-396-8025 > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-06 11:13:45] mopar1968 wrote: > > > > > > > tracking number is, this is UPS > > > > > > > 1ZA939F10392773007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-04 22:01:50] jrlj wrote: > > > > > > > > Did you get that carb shipped today? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 21:39:22] mopar1968 wrote: > > > > > > > > > lol i will take it out before ship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 20:36:38] jrlj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > did not send fuel line, if I have one don't know where it is. Keep yours and I'll figure one out. thanx much, JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-03 19:57:08] mopar1968 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > be shipping in the morning from work. did you have a fuel line they take a funky one. i am sending one with this carb if you are sending one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-02 15:43:53] jrlj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > wife shipped your carb today, usps, tracking is 03060320000207404214 or the last 4 might be 4221, shipped 2 things and she didn't mark the tag, anyway it's on the way. let me know whats up on your end. thanx, JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On [2008-02-01 09:11:15] mopar1968 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > send me your address and i will get it to you; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mine is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark arnold > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20284 alavrado rd > > > > > > > > > > > > > abingdon virginia 24211 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no shipping charge to you, i will ship free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send Reply Delete Message Home | Classifieds | About | Contact | Store | Advertise | Affiliate Program | Pricing Guide | FAQ | Send Link to a Friend Copyright ©2005 RacewayMedia LLC All Rights Reserved. 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Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb. JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy. When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money. But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners. Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board. JR, returning it would buy you the same. My opinion as always, Later in case 67ss396chevelle missed this part. Nobody disputes that Mopar gave him the carb...it is what is stated in the above quoted post that is the real issue...at least for me. |
I can see both sides of it....kinda.There was a mixup,and I'm NOT gonna pick sides on that.When mopar offered for him to keep the carb,sounds like things I have done in the past.Something doesn't go exactly as planned,one party gets all riled up and you look for a quick fix to end it.Sometimes your mouth outruns your brain.We all understand that mopar freely offered the card to jrlj,all we are saying is that if jrllj was kinda greedy to accept something that costly as "payment" for all his "trouble".Mopar was trying to right the situation,probably didn't think things thru all the way and jrlj took advantage of the situation.Mopar did not come on here saying that jrlj stole his carb.He came on here,originally, saying that jrlj was just hard to deal with.From the posts we've all read,I think we can all agree on that.Mopar never asked for his carb back.WEasked for his carb back.Mopar was being too nice.Jrlj was,and is being too greedy.After all,if that carb caused him SOOO much trauma in his life,and it was something that he DID NOT WANT,why does he want to hold on to it so badly?Mopar has done nothing wrong.So everybody shut up off him and quit accusing him of being tricky.It is OBVIOUS that by his VOLUNTARY financial loss in this dealing that he is not out to get over on anyone.The only post that needs to go up here,IMHO,is the one saying Jrlj sent it back after realizing that he didn't need the money from selling it to cover his counseling to help him recover from such a traumitizing ordeal :roll:
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He needs counseling to deal with his personal "demons" :P
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Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
So Mopar, you offer for JR to keep the carb for his trouble. Then what I would expect and we usually see is that the other person would appreciate your offer, see it for the fact that it is intended to make things right then turn it down. The offer is what has value, not the damn carb. JR should have realized that there was a communication mistake, been appreciative of your offer and then met that generosity by returning the carb. deal done, friends made and everyone happy. When he kept the carb and said he did it because you told him that was the deal? It became all about the money. But then these days it is all about the money right? Not about doing whats right, making friends and building relationships, even meeting trading partners. Mopar, what that carb deal/final offer bought you is the admiration and respect of many on this board. JR, returning it would buy you the same. My opinion as always, Later in case 67ss396chevelle missed this part. Nobody disputes that Mopar gave him the carb...it is what is stated in the above quoted post that is the real issue...at least for me. |
See.... Lively agrees with me...I gotta be right :D
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i would just like to know why you popped up all the sudden, this has been weeks?
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OH ---AND BY THE WAY-67ss396chevelle-I HAVEN'T POSTED OVER 1000 POSTS BECAUSE I DID NOT READ THE POSTS ON THIS FORUM---I STAND UP AND SPEAK WHAT I KNOW ABOUT/ LISTEN TO OTHERS WHEN I DON'T /AND LEARN FROM MY OWN AND OTHERS MISTAKES---I JUST MIGHT BE OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR DAD BUT THEN WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OLD YOU ARE--I HAVE DEALED AND RACED FOR OVER 30 TEARS AND STILL TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY 8) 8) 8)--YOU EARN RESPECT/ IT IS NOT HANDED TO YOU-----LIVELY
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Re: carb
Originally Posted by mopar1968
i would just like to know why you popped up all the sudden, this has been weeks?
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Originally Posted by lively
OH ---AND BY THE WAY-67ss396chevelle-I HAVEN'T POSTED OVER 1000 POSTS BECAUSE I DID NOT READ THE POSTS ON THIS FORUM---I STAND UP AND SPEAK WHAT I KNOW ABOUT/ LISTEN TO OTHERS WHEN I DON'T /AND LEARN FROM MY OWN AND OTHERS MISTAKES---I JUST MIGHT BE OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR DAD BUT THEN WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OLD YOU ARE--I HAVE DEALED AND RACED FOR OVER 30 TEARS AND STILL TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY 8) 8) 8)--YOU EARN RESPECT/ IT IS NOT HANDED TO YOU-----LIVELY
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So are you saying i scammed him? Still no profile?
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