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Re: worked out
Originally Posted by strdmn
well finally this thing should be over we have come to a gentlemans agreement so we can both get on with our lives.i never intended on tony not getting what he wanted.it was an honest mistake.i never lied orintended to deceive anyone.i've done quite a bit of trading on here and have never had a problemi have had to do repairs to almost every vehicle ihave ever traded on.i figure thats just old cars.my mistake was taking the previous owners description and relisting with it.i am out athousand bucks,but i don't believe the previous owner deliberately lied to me.when you are into street cars more than race cars,i think you are pleased easier if it gets you to the lovcal cruise in and back with out boiling over or blowing up it's good to go.thats not neccesarily what tony was looking for and i understand that.and wish him the best in his future endevors.i hold no ill feelings for tony ,he doesn't know me from dirt so i could see his side in thinking i may have lied to him.we all know there is no need to lie to sell/trade a car.there is always someone that is going to want your car.i'm hoping tony and i both heal from this and harbor no ill feelings as we never know when we may meet again.but i'm sure it won't be in a trade.he was a very stand up guy in helping when the tire blew on the hauler.he got right on his comp.and found a place on sunday morning to get a new tire.and as he said did help in loading and getting us on our way in the shortest time possible.glad we got through this.
No hard feelings Wally. I hated even having to go through this. But I was expecting something that I didnt get. Glad we got it worked out |
no hard feelings ,i'll just be glad when you post or message me that you received the money order and the cash is in your pocket.i never lied to you or intended to scam or deceive you or anyone else.this was just a bad deal all around.after paying to transport and then the $1000.00 that puts me at my truck and $1500.00 for your cars and i wouldn't have done that if the truck had a 6 cylender in it.i guess i'll chalk it up to education costs money and i just bought some education.i will be very carefull in my ad listings in the future .i know we will both survive from this ordeal.just a shame it had to happen this way.good luck in your future endevors,take care of yourself,and have all the fun you can possibly have. Wally
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Recieved payment.... Case closed
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
Recieved payment.... Case closed
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Well I'm in on this one late as I see they hashed it out...but after reading through this thread Two things are certain.
1) The truck wasn't what was advertised and there definitely should be some compensation. 2) I would never in a million years deal with Tony Litell after reading the ridiculous compensation he wanted prior to reaching an agreement with the other guy. If you are not capable of yanking a small block chevy out of a truck and reinstalling another sbc then you need to find a different hobbey....$1000 to remove and replace a sbc? Wow. That's a one afternoon job. I would miss work for that gig any day. I think $500-$600 would have been fair compensation for the difference in 350- 400 ci |
Originally Posted by Tod74
Well I'm in on this one late as I see they hashed it out...but after reading through this thread Two things are certain.
1) The truck wasn't what was advertised and there definitely should be some compensation. 2) I would never in a million years deal with Tony Litell after reading the ridiculous compensation he wanted prior to reaching an agreement with the other guy. If you are not capable of yanking a small block chevy out of a truck and reinstalling another sbc then you need to find a different hobbey....$1000 to remove and replace a sbc? Wow. That's a one afternoon job. I would miss work for that gig any day. I think $500-$600 would have been fair compensation for the difference in 350- 400 ci Well Tod (if that is even your real name. My capabilities aren't weren't the issue. (although I dont have an engine hoist or solid ground to swap engines on). The long and short of it is, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOO...... AND WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IN COMPENSATION WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TOLD I WAS GETTING.... You seem to think it was ok to get less than promised... A few hundred dollars doesn't make things ok....... I wouldn't have given two turn key cars for what i ended up with. And what I asked for was what ANY judge would have awarded me in court. I started out the whole thing asking the guy to pay for HALF of a used 406 in the amount of 1500 dollars. He said he didn't have the cash and when he accused me of just being out for some free money and having traders remorse, I decided to stop being so nice about it..... But don't worry Tod, you don't have to worry about EVER having to trade with me. ..... You don't have anything I would ever want. Have a nice day! :wink: |
Originally Posted by tonylittell
Originally Posted by Tod74
Well I'm in on this one late as I see they hashed it out...but after reading through this thread Two things are certain.
1) The truck wasn't what was advertised and there definitely should be some compensation. 2) I would never in a million years deal with Tony Litell after reading the ridiculous compensation he wanted prior to reaching an agreement with the other guy. If you are not capable of yanking a small block chevy out of a truck and reinstalling another sbc then you need to find a different hobby....$1000 to remove and replace a sbc? Wow. That's a one afternoon job. I would miss work for that gig any day. I think $500-$600 would have been fair compensation for the difference in 350- 400 ci Well Tod (if that is even your real name. My capabilities aren't weren't the issue. (although I dont have an engine hoist or solid ground to swap engines on). The long and short of it is, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOO...... AND WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IN COMPENSATION WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TOLD I WAS GETTING.... You seem to think it was ok to get less than promised... A few hundred dollars doesn't make things ok....... I wouldn't have given two turn key cars for what i ended up with. And what I asked for was what ANY judge would have awarded me in court. I started out the whole thing asking the guy to pay for HALF of a used 406 in the amount of 1500 dollars. He said he didn't have the cash and when he accused me of just being out for some free money and having traders remorse, I decided to stop being so nice about it..... But don't worry Tod, you don't have to worry about EVER having to trade with me. ..... You don't have anything I would ever want. Have a nice day! :wink: I didn't mean to offend you but it is obvious to me you are a hard guy to deal with.That was the reason for my first comment. If that truck would have had the same heads,cam,carb etc etc that were on the 350 on a 406 ci short block it would NOT make that truck worth $1500 more than it's worth with the 350ci short block. YOU drove the truck and YOU knew how much seat of the pants power it had and were happy up until someone else TOLD you it was a 350. I respect Scorp a great deal but I wouldn't be too sure about a Judge awarding you what you asked for....maybe maybe not. I make no argument that you didn't deserve what was advertised..only that you were being very unreasonable with what you wanted. If he would have paid you half of a used mild 406 you wouldn't have bought one.Most people do not go out and buy a used "mild 406" they build one because when they buy one it ends up just like this deal"It wasn't what he promised it was!!" ...oh that's right...I forgot.You can't build your own engine. My mistake. :lol: Have a good one. Todd |
Originally Posted by tonylittell
Originally Posted by Tod74
Well I'm in on this one late as I see they hashed it out...but after reading through this thread Two things are certain.
1) The truck wasn't what was advertised and there definitely should be some compensation. 2) I would never in a million years deal with Tony Litell after reading the ridiculous compensation he wanted prior to reaching an agreement with the other guy. If you are not capable of yanking a small block chevy out of a truck and reinstalling another sbc then you need to find a different hobbey....$1000 to remove and replace a sbc? Wow. That's a one afternoon job. I would miss work for that gig any day. I think $500-$600 would have been fair compensation for the difference in 350- 400 ci Well Tod (if that is even your real name. My capabilities aren't weren't the issue. (although I dont have an engine hoist or solid ground to swap engines on). The long and short of it is, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOO...... AND WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IN COMPENSATION WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TOLD I WAS GETTING.... You seem to think it was ok to get less than promised... A few hundred dollars doesn't make things ok....... I wouldn't have given two turn key cars for what i ended up with. And what I asked for was what ANY judge would have awarded me in court. I started out the whole thing asking the guy to pay for HALF of a used 406 in the amount of 1500 dollars. He said he didn't have the cash and when he accused me of just being out for some free money and having traders remorse, I decided to stop being so nice about it..... But don't worry Tod, you don't have to worry about EVER having to trade with me. ..... You don't have anything I would ever want. Have a nice day! :wink: BEING A SMARTELLECK TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HONESTLY TRYING TO HELP YOU AND THE SELLER SETTLE THIS :roll: SUCKS I THINK THE SAME--IF YOU CAN NOT DO THE WORK YOURSELF --THEN--PAY SOMEONE TO CHECK OUT YOUR DEALS FOR YOU[BEFORE] YOU MAKE THEM :roll: :roll: not being mean to you just truthful--alot of guys do not know the difference in engines/ do not know how to read the numbers on the engines/ and know NOTHING about putting them together :shock: that is why they have it done by a trusted builder :idea: :idea: also my real name is not LIVELY[incase you wanted to know] ps--i would change the engines for less then $1000-WOW I NEED TO RAISE MY PRICES!! |
Now wait here a minute, Before Mr Littell give's himself a pat on the back or anyone does it, All had better check this forum history, Seem's Mr Littell has been here before, Both cases are very much alike, Come on guy's do your homework :!: :!: Check it out Pg 9 Watchout for add #1646797 tonylittle :!: :!: And Mr Littell a thank you to some on here for their help would be nice jester on your part :!: :!: :roll:
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LMAO
http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=11645 talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :o Seems to me YOU advertised an engine/car based on what the guy before you said..and didn't bother to varify that before passing it off as something it was not....
Originally Posted by shortcake
While the mustang in this add is a great car that was built from the ground up by my boyfriend and I, the new owner of this car that has posted the add #1646797 has made this car out to be something that it is not. The engine in this car is not a 306 and the car has never ran a 1.5 60 ft. that he has stated in this add. The car was at Pinks All Out, but only because my boyfriend won a lottery drawing not because the car qualified. The car has a 302 stock bottom end and it does run a consistant 11.30's to 11.40's. This add states several things on this car that are not true. The new owner of this car aquired it through a trade where he also said things about the other car that were just not true and he has only had this car for about a month and we gave him records of everything that was done to this car. I also still have copies of the records as proof of what this car is all about. So beware.
That is called MISREPRESENTATION!!!!!!!! :o :o Please don't answer saying how you emailed the guy buying your car and told him it wasn't as advertised...and then asking him how to take care of it. That isn't the point...the point is you did exactly what the seller of the truck did...You misrepresented the car when you advertised it.You took the guys word for it when you bought it. Just like I said....he is exactly the type of person I wouldn't want to deal with. ALL OF YOU need to look at that thread I linked. The guy was very rude,foul mouthed and insulting. Anyone that deals with him is asking for trouble. If your car had sold before you found out about it not being as advertised,would YOU have sent him another 306 engine with forged pistons and allowed him to keep the engine that you sold him so he could pay someone to swap it? After all..by your logic it's only fair. |
COME ON ,TONY
LET'S HERE IT NOW :roll: |
Actually, I did do the rite thing and emailed the buyer and lowered the price as well BEFORE the buyer got the car........ I also deleted the ad and added a correct ad..... I did everything possible to fix the situation BEFORE anyone got the car. I had it sold and notified my buyer that the car was misrepresented to me and cut the price if he still wanted it.
Because it was the rite thing to do My motor in the mustang was the correct motor, but 4 CUBIC INCHES SHORT.... I didn't even get the correct engine to make the 406 I was told it had Everyone acts like I was trying to get the guy.....y'all seem to have missed the fact that I offered to pay the shipping on the engine as well as pay him 500 dollars on top of the shipping I was paying once I got it in the truck and verified it ran just as it did when it left my driveway(which I'm sure would have been close to another 500 dollars in freight) Also, you guys are forgetting or missing the fact that the motor wasn't just a few cubic inches off...... it was a completely different engine...... I'm done with the arguing.....I got 1000 dollars towards the 406 short-block I had to buy, and the other motor is pulled apart to just a block and heads in preparation to be pulled to have THE ENGINE IT WAS ADVERTISED WITH INSTALLED..... Here are pics to prove I am pulling the engine to put what i was told it had in the truck http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...ORSTRIPPED.jpg |
But, I'm done in here.... You guys can talk about want a money hungry bad person I am without me..
To the few that did help me in letting me know my legal options I thank you... Everyone have a wonderfull holiday weekend |
There you go run forrest run when you get caught that is what most do when they get busted :!: :!: JMO Mark
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Originally Posted by Tod74
If your car had sold before you found out about it not being as advertised,would YOU have sent him another 306 engine with forged pistons and allowed him to keep the engine that you sold him so he could pay someone to swap it? After all..by your logic it's only fair.
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Originally Posted by mopar1968
There you go run forrest run when you get caught that is what most do when they get busted :!: :!: JMO Mark
and you have a link to me getting a WHOLE DIFFERENT ENGINE THAN ADVERTISED.... I have nothing to run from.... just tired of arguing with a bunch of childeren and cowards that hide behind fake names.... If you would care to continue this conversation like adults. My name and address is John Anthony "Tony" Littell 26971 Greenhead drive Petersburg, Va 23805 804-691-3425 Come on by and you can help me replace the engine that I shouldn't have had to rent a motor hoist and other tools to replace in a truck that I traded for.... http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...ewmotorjpg.jpg |
why the hell would anybody go through all this chitt to put a sb 400 in :? stock 400 block is a p.o.s !! :roll: :roll:
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Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
why the hell would anybody go through all this chitt to put a sb 400 in :? stock 400 block is a p.o.s !! :roll: :roll:
ANSWER THE QUESTION TONY...The only reason you lowered the price on your car was you found out it wasn't as advertised. What if it would have sold before you found out? If your car had sold before you found out about it not being as advertised,would YOU have sent him another 306 engine with forged pistons and allowed him to keep the engine that you sold him so he could pay someone to swap it? After all..by your logic it's only fair |
:lol: tod ya know were right!! want a good 400, start with a dart shp or lil-m !!
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Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by Tod74
If your car had sold before you found out about it not being as advertised,would YOU have sent him another 306 engine with forged pistons and allowed him to keep the engine that you sold him so he could pay someone to swap it? After all..by your logic it's only fair.
There is a difference in the 2 situations that you dont seem to have the ability to see. So let me help again... If the guy decided to buy my car he would have gotten the same block needed to make a 306. a simple 30thousanths bore gives the 4 cubic inches we are talking about... The motor I recieved couldnt even be made to make the 56 cubic inches I was missing.... It wasnt event the same motor fella.... And you keep missing the part that I deleted my ad when the original owner stated they lied to me about what the motor in the other car was. Not only did I delete my ad but I offered the potetial new owner a 1000 dollar cut in the price for the 4 cubic inches we are talking about.... now, If that isnt enough for you, I really dont care. This whole engine thing has cost me a little over 4000 dollars now (not counting the 1000 dollars Wally sent me) |
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
why the hell would anybody go through all this chitt to put a sb 400 in :? stock 400 block is a p.o.s !! :roll: :roll:
ANSWER THE QUESTION TONY...The only reason you lowered the price on your car was you found out it wasn't as advertised. What if it would have sold before you found out? If your car had sold before you found out about it not being as advertised,would YOU have sent him another 306 engine with forged pistons and allowed him to keep the engine that you sold him so he could pay someone to swap it? After all..by your logic it's only fair and again Tod.... Read the Posts.... He would have gotton the engine advertised, but i would have made things rite with him.........I DIDNT EVEN GET THE CORRECT ENGINE. THE ONE I GOT COULDNT EVEN MAKE THE 406 THAT WAS ADVERTISED..... |
now for the last time i am done with this childish arguing back and forth....
I got screwed (partially my own fault as I stated in the beginning) and it cost me 4 grand plus the grand wally sent me.... so now im moving on just as a couple of you need too |
TONY---one quick statement
if you have to speak to a woman with the words you used in the pointed out add[your earlier deal!!] then in my mind and alot of other peoples minds[ then YOU ARE A SCUMBAG -PERIOD!! ANYBODY THAT SPEAKS TO A WOMAN IN THOSE TERMS IS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT OR TIME TO FIX ANYTHING FOR.] SORRY BUT NO RESPECT FOR YOU WILL COME FROM MOST PEOPLE TILL YOU CAN APOLIGIZE ON HERE JUST AS YOU SAID IT ON HERE!!! TAKE IT OR LEAVE ,TONY---YOUR CHOICE :oops: :oops: |
Tony since that 350 is a piece of junk and you dont want it. You were going to give it to someone to pull it. I will come and get it. I will bring my engine crane and pull it for you. Looks like it has good roller rockers and intake. I have a chevy II gasser project that it would do great in. Let me know.
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Well- I see this thread went a bit further since I was gone. Tony.... it all makes complete sense now. I knew there was something about you that SCREAMED you were a pain in the A$$!!! "I will sue you" is the first thing that told me you are not capable of handling things like a man. The fact that you are a HYPOCRITE makes this whole thing even more concrete. The way to talk to females makes you a low-life coward IMHO. Ya little whiner. I hope your new "400" heats up like a volcano & shreds itself into oblivion. BTW... my real mane is not "Scooter" either... PUNK.
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Originally Posted by Rigsby
Well- I see this thread went a bit further since I was gone. Tony.... it all makes complete sense now. I knew there was something about you that SCREAMED you were a pain in the A$$!!! "I will sue you" is the first thing that told me you are not capable of handling things like a man. The fact that you are a HYPOCRITE makes this whole thing even more concrete. The way to talk to females makes you a low-life coward IMHO. Ya little whiner. I hope your new "400" heats up like a volcano & shreds itself into oblivion. BTW... my real mane is not "Scooter" either... PUNK.
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Tony,
You married? If so, you should apologize to YOUR wife as well. If not, we can see why. Posting your address!!!! You just put your OWN family in harms way!! That alone shows you don't make much use of your "thought process". I am really, really wanting to know though............................................ .. Why is misrepresentation ok when YOU are the seller.......But not, when YOU are the buyer? Kinda makes your brain hurt trying to figure that one out doesn't it? Be sure to respond before activating your "thought processor", it shows the real "tony bologna". A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Yes, my real name IS Rudy, you think I would let anyone call me that if it wasn't? |
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Doncha think rudy? Scorp |
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Doncha think rudy? Scorp |
I stand corrected men, I do believe that makes sense!
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Doncha think rudy? Scorp |
Shoot yeah guy's it makes sense , scam money work on the 350 who would know the difference :!: That's why i went back into the history I knew his name from somewhere :!: :!: JMO Mark
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I say again...if that was a 400 instead of 350 it would not be worth 1000 more than it is with 350.
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I am not getting into any of this even thou I have an opinion..I will say the 1k was a very generous settlement.
I think Zips 1st post was over looked...the 350 block is a high nickle block one of the best GM made ( thats your BETTER BASE QUESTION ANSWERED)..I ran the same block #'s in a alcohol,blown injected 65 Chevy II that made 1200hp at 14 lbs of boost..it was Hardblocked of course...but ran 700hp thru it with spray sveral years before nothing but head studs.......Hell of a block for a stock GM Block............... here is a pic... some of the old timers on here will remember this car... http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...blownnova1.jpg |
WHO IS HE CALLING --OLD TIMERS :lol: :lol:
STILL A GREAT CAR 8) 8) 8) |
Originally Posted by lively
WHO IS HE CALLING --OLD TIMERS :lol: :lol:
STILL A GREAT CAR 8) 8) 8) lol :D |
yup, he came out of this with a double win . lets see if he has the same luck with that ole 400 block he's replacing it with. :wink: that 350 block would make a nice 383 :!:
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Yes he did Hemi. At the same time, he tried to make look as if he was taken advantage of; a poor unsuspecting innocent victim. I would say he came out of this one pretty good. For 1K, I would have told him to proceed with his claim... or at least take the 350 back from him too.
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Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
Tony,
You married? If so, you should apologize to YOUR wife as well. If not, we can see why. Posting your address!!!! You just put your OWN family in harms way!! That alone shows you don't make much use of your "thought process". I am really, really wanting to know though............................................ .. Why is misrepresentation ok when YOU are the seller.......But not, when YOU are the buyer? Kinda makes your brain hurt trying to figure that one out doesn't it? Be sure to respond before activating your "thought processor", it shows the real "tony bologna". A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Yes, my real name IS Rudy, you think I would let anyone call me that if it wasn't? I didn't put my wife or my three kids in harms way, because NOBODY IN THIS FORUM HAS THE COURAGE TO USE REAL NAMES LET ALONE THE BALLS TO COME HERE FACE TO FACE AND THREATEN ME OR MY FAMILY.... As I said before I did do the right thing and I changed my ad with the mustang AND LOWERED THE PRICE because I felt it was only right! Some of you are really ignorant and have no reading comprehension what so ever..... After 4000 dollars of mine and 1000 dollars of Wally's I have the truck promised in the ad..... hard lesson learned unfortunately..... As far as what I said to the person that started the thread saying i misrepresented the car I GOT FROM THEM! ????? Well as I said before..... She is a worthless lying piece of shit. As well as the Cunt I called her before..... I'm done here and as I said before... If you have anything further to say feel free to use the contact info I provided, as I have no need to continue in here like a bunch of women bickering, If not wonderful as well. Have a wonderful life!!!!!!! |
Tony, You are truly an idiot. Please though, answer my question:
"Why is misrepresentation ok when YOU are the seller.......But not, when YOU are the buyer? Don't tell us you changed the ad on your own, you had to be busted lying before you did. BTW are you the fag looking Tony Little that sells those butt shaping machines? Tony Littleman should be your name! Again, I have to say you are a MORON for giving out your address! I know, I know, NOBODY wants ANY of BIG BAD TONY!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by tonylittell
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
Tony,
You married? If so, you should apologize to YOUR wife as well. If not, we can see why. Posting your address!!!! You just put your OWN family in harms way!! That alone shows you don't make much use of your "thought process". I am really, really wanting to know though............................................ .. Why is misrepresentation ok when YOU are the seller.......But not, when YOU are the buyer? Kinda makes your brain hurt trying to figure that one out doesn't it? Be sure to respond before activating your "thought processor", it shows the real "tony bologna". A thin walled 400 over a thick walled 350,,,,doesn't make sense to me! Yes, my real name IS Rudy, you think I would let anyone call me that if it wasn't? I didn't put my wife or my three kids in harms way, because NOBODY IN THIS FORUM HAS THE COURAGE TO USE REAL NAMES LET ALONE THE BALLS TO COME HERE FACE TO FACE AND THREATEN ME OR MY FAMILY.... As I said before I did do the right thing and I changed my ad with the mustang AND LOWERED THE PRICE because I felt it was only right! Some of you are really ignorant and have no reading comprehension what so ever..... After 4000 dollars of mine and 1000 dollars of Wally's I have the truck promised in the ad..... hard lesson learned unfortunately..... As far as what I said to the person that started the thread saying i misrepresented the car I GOT FROM THEM! ????? Well as I said before..... She is a worthless lying piece of s. As well as the c I called her before..... I'm done here and as I said before... If you have anything further to say feel free to use the contact info I provided, as I have no need to continue in here like a bunch of women bickering, If not wonderful as well. Have a wonderful life!!!!!!! |
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