Gentleman you got that right........
 

I cruze the RJ site almost everyday and I do appreciate the "support" that you give the folks that have been scammed.
Keep up the good work guys.
As a note: The chevelle that this sheet metal went on is getting a new and improved BBC. After my pinks debut at Route 66 and they picked the 8.50 ish group (fastest in pinks history) My boo was not that fast.... so it did not get picked, but the new and improved BBC that is going in shortly (with a little spray) may be fast enough ??? You know this on going adventure to go faster is a thankle$$ but very enjoyable "quest".
Also the body man did a great job making the panels right, but it did cost me over 300.00 over the original estimate. So they "owe" me. They have lost me as a customer and if they continue to act like a fool, they will loss others, That is bad busniess pratice "in my opinion "
Good Luck Out there and stay safe, and good health to all
Jeff M.

Re: typo on my last post
 

Is this something you know for a fact, or are you just assuming? Just asking because I would think if they could prove someone cost them money they could have a case. Again,just asking,not saying you are wrong.

ok found this

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html


A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation


http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/l...ity/defamation


A few courts have said that statements made in the context of an Internet bulletin board or chat room are highly likely to be opinions or hyperbole, but they do look at the remark in context to see if it's likely to be seen as a true, even if controversial, opinion ("I really hate George Lucas' new movie") rather than an assertion of fact dressed up as an opinion ("It's my opinion that Trinity is the hacker who broke into the IRS database").

Re: typo on my last post
 

Um well do I know for a fact?

Well just went to school for it, and thats how the Law Professor taught Business Law. But you know how those colleges are Tod, just full of useless propaganda, and not anywhere as fact based as the World Wide Web.

If you represent an opinion as fact it can be a cause for defamation even though its far fetched such as the pathological liar example. An opinion represented as opinion is still not a cause for Defamation at least according to my Business law professor. But what did she know, she's only a darn judge in MD now :)

I am probably wrong, lol.

Re: typo on my last post
 

I simply asked a question and you want to be a prick. You act as though you are a lawyer(maybe you are ) by the way you post in the scammer section about the law...so people listen to you.I just asked because If you are going to give advice that people take in good faith as accurate, I want to know if it is accurate.

While I agree you can't believe everything you read online, A five minute google search turns up MULTIPLE sites that indicate that you MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!

So pardon me for not blindly accepting information posted by YOU as fact.

http://www.muddlawoffices.com/defama...amationfaq.htm

Can I avoid being sued by saying "In my opinion" or claiming a statement is my opinion?
No. You cannot protect yourself by merely stating "In my opinion" or describing a statement as an opinion. If the statement is clearly an opinion and not based on facts (or implied as deriving from facts), it may be protected. Many times, this will be a determination made by the judge. It is essential to obtain sound advice from a knowledgeable attorney or lawyer on whether a particular statement will likely be legally considered an opinion

in case you missed it before you got all "Smarter than You" about it.

You are absolutely right Tod :)

:roll:

It isn't about being right.It's about you being an arrogant know it all.




here is another one

Statements of pure opinion cannot be libelous. However, simply leading off an article with "In my opinion...", publishing something on the opinion page or using the word "alleged" provides no automatic protection from a libel charge. The test is whether the expression is capable of being proven true or false. Pure opinions, by their very nature, cannot be proven true or false. Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co., 497 U.S. 1 (1990)

You know Tod, I guess the appropriate response is "Where's my fishtank" That has been your one consistent contribution it seems on many threads. Its pretty funny I guess.

In the absence, of supportable personally obtained empirical information I would say that the web contains, generally accurate information. However, the Web also contains a fair amount of questionably accurate content. In the case of receipt of direct information from an attorney, and one qualified enough to become a presiding judge, I will comfortably share that information as accurate, and hold that up to any web-based information you provide. Why? Because I know the quality of the source. How about you on your web sources?

I have the support from the attorney who stated that was an accurate position, I attended the class, retained the text and have her name and all notes. What exactly did you have besides a URL?

And Tod, I really don't care if you want to call me arrogant, I do what I can to help people I don't know, share what I have been taught and try to check the facts before I say anything.

Or would it be better to just respond with "Where's my Fishtank?" Huh?

My issue wasn't with the info you gave it was with your smart azz response to my question. A question in which I made it a point to say"not saying you are wrong,just asking."

OK YOU TWO---BOTH OF YOU ARE RIGHT AND BOTH OF YOU ARE WRONG :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: NOW TAKE A DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP BREATH AND JUST THINK GOOD THOUGHTS--WE ARE NOT EACH OTHERS ENEMIES/WE ARE IN THIS AS A GROUP AND DO VEEEERY WELL AS A GROUP// SO STRAIGHTEN UP OR YOU BOTH WILL GET A [ TIMEOUT] AND HAVE TO STAY WITH LITTLEROD FOR A WEEK :shock: :shock: :cry: :cry:
your friend -LIVELY

I acknowledge that Scorp helps a great deal of people.I respect that.It just boils down to he got his feathers ruffled because I dared to question something he said.Instead of showing something to back up his statement he just got sarcastic.

Obviously he knows more than I do about this sort of thing,but that doesn't mean he can't be wrong ever.

I'm done.

did we slide off the track?
 

did we loose our focus

Boy's now were all friends here :!: So let's all focus on the subject at hand and not let some scammer tear us down :!: And if you don't behave like men should i am sicking Lively on you two :!: :!: JMO Mark

Yep- I know that I am not the finest example of how not to get into a pis_ing match (lol), but you guys are a important part of this family. Both good guys...

sharks shouldn't feed on each other when theres plenty scammer fish in the water that taste much better! :wink:

Back to Tamraz
 

This company still has not contacted me, to explain things or try and make things right.
I will continue to buy parts and car perfpormance, parts from companies that treat people fairly and with dignity and truth, TAMRAZ has not ,so ???????????

Re: Back to Tamraz
 

THEY won't either. There is nothing to explain.They don't make the fenders they just sell them. All they could do is give you another set that may or may not fit or give you a refund,which apparently they aren't going to do. It would be interesting to see if they will still tell a new customer that they had no complaints. Obviously you have complained now, so if you call back pretending to be a new customer they should NOT tell you they have had zero problems. If they fess up that they have had one pissed off customer recently whos fenders did not fit, then to me that shows what kind of people they are.

tamaraz
 

Hello Todd
They did not offer a refund, or to replace them. They sold them to me and they as a company are responsible for what they represented and what they told me about the product. My deal is with them not the manufact. I asked them detailed questions about the fenders, they told me about the quality and fit "zero problems and great fenders". Then after explaining the problems with the transaction and the product ,that they infact were not as represented properly, I was threatened with legal begal stuff. All I wanted was what I ordered and what was represented to me. I did not get that and was treated very poorly. Where I was raised that is not the way to do busniess and when they were given the opportunity to make it right I got zero response. Again very poor busniess pratice possibly even fraud. Are you pretty confident they will not respond to this problem ? Has it been too long ? or have you had a bad experience with them ? Do they share your opinion about not being the manuf. only the company that sold them ? sorta curious
Thanks for your opinion, I find it interesting
I know the way we do busniess has changed, but I sure hope that power and greed does not take over and companies except this type of poor behavior as apart of doing busniess. If that happens a small little deal like a set of fenders would be the last thing we need to worry about. JMO
Let me know how feel about that, your opinions got me thinking
Jeff 708-308-0282

I do think they should make it right.I just don't think they will based on what you have reported. I would like to see someone call them and ask about the fenders just to see if they still tell the customer that there have been zero problems. As I said it would tell you if they are honest or not.

Tamaraz
 

They should make it right, I was honest with my explaination about the damaged/misrepresented product that they sold me.
Because of the faulty products they sold me , it cost me money and time. I will not call them to ask about any products quality because than I have become part of the problem,not the solution. As we know ....Talk is cheap , they may have learned from this transaction, I know I have. I will not buy anything from them and I hope anyone that does has a much better experience than I did.
I can see we share diffent opinions on this matter. If you try to buy something from them now you are armed with truthfull info. Which you may not get back from them , so be carefull
jeff

Re: Tamaraz
 

I'm not sure how you can conclude that we share different opinions. Not true. I agree with you. I was saying that if I called them today and asked the same question you asked before buying, (which was about the quality of the fenders,) I should get a different answer than you did. They told you zero problems with the fenders. Well. now you have had a problem with the fenders and you told them about it...so if they are honest they should tell me that they have had at least one person unhappy with the fenders.

Tamraz
 

Still no response from Tamraz, I hope others have had a better experience with them.Just be carefull

I ordered a set of quarters from Ecklers for my Chevelle the other day. I'll post on here what the quality of their sheet metal is when I can see how they fit and look. I considered Tamraz and went with Ecklers after thinking about this thread.

tamraz
 

Thanks for the comments and support. Always ask the right questions be honest and fair and be carefull
2365 views at this time
Maybe someone from Tamraz will wake up and try to improve customer satisfaction. It would be to their benefit in the long run
I am glad we have the internet. It helps us with information, to find parts, to find companies and their services and other valuable info/tools we use in our daily lives. Also it is a great media for communication. But it has changed how we do busniess. It is a two sided sword. But I am glad we have it..Good Luck when choosing companies to spend your hard earned Dollars. It can be tought picking the right ones. JMO

Re: tamraz
 

Just for the sake of discussion,

What should have happened here to make you think they are a good company?I'm not sticking up for them or saying they are good or bad, just asking you how this situation SHOULD have been handled.

Tamraz
 

Happy Thanksgiving

happy holidays
 

over 2500 views ,thanks for all the support
just bought some trim stuff and guess who did not get the order ????
about 123.00 worth and I am pretty sure they have it, SS 454 fender emblems, SS grill and rear bumper trim, nanananana
good luck and have a great holiday season
jeff

trimmed out
 

I am in the process of slickering up a nice 71 Chevelle SS 454 clone tunnel rammed BBC car. And I will put some SS trim on the car,QUESS WHO WILL NOT GET THE ORDER, Tamraz
Oh well
Jeff

nananananana
 

I just ordered 262.00 worth of trim for the 71 chevelle I just picked up, I saw Tamraz had each and every piece I ordered .I did not order a single piece from them.They blew it with me just by being stupid foolish. JMO

happy new year
 

tamraz treated me unfairly I paid for good quality fenders and did not get good quality fenders, also they did not handle the problem professionally
and I would not use them again. If you choose too be carefull
I just bought 235.00 more dollars worth of trim for a 71 chevelle and they sell the stuff I bought and I did not use them.
In the long run they really lose, not me

Happy New Year

Same crap different day
 

I'm going through a similar situation with TAMRAZ now.

Bought parts from ebay,arrived 4 weeks later, one part was incorrect,

over a month now still not resolved.

Slow shipping, poor customer service, never again

:( :evil:

tamraz
 

You may also have a problem with how they treat you as a customer, there were very condesending and gave me no options that were even remotely reseasonable.It cost me and extra 310 to have the fenders fixed, and they have lost me as a customer. I do hope it works out for you. Ask them if they remember me Jeff Magnuson 70 chevelle fenders ?
Good Luck Bud

Hi Jeff,

Been awhile since I posted on this one. I have agree that in these days... a company cannot afford to treat their customers the way you were treated. I wonder if Tamarz knows that this thread is here?? It seems that they would try to reconcile this situation. I see this situation more about customer service, salesmanship, courtesy, professionalism, etc... more than the lack of quality control. Think of how many people that have read this.... all the people who can go somewhere else so easily... yet the company still does nothing. Amazing....

For what its worth, since this thread started I have placed orders for parts twice from parts other supliers other than tamraz. This is a direct result of the way Jeff has been treated by them. JEFF & MYSELF ARE LOCAL TO TAMRAZ, I SUPPORT LOCAL BUISNESS WHEN EVER POSSIBLE, BUT WILL NOT AWARD ONE WHO THINKS TREATING A CUSTOMER RIGHT COMES SECOND TO GREED, IT WOULD HAVE COST THEM VERY LITTLE TO MAKE THIS RIGHT AND CHOSE NOT TO.

tamraz experience
 

Hey Guys
Thanks for reading and supporting this post. All my info was accurate and I also have not bought from them. I did buy approximately 1000.00 worth of parts after this experience that I knew they have and they did not get the order. I also have told my experience to fellow car club members (2 groups) and they also have changed a few orders. In these times customer satisfaction should be very high on companies lists. The quality of the fenders was one issue and the way the company treated me and the deal was another issue. The experience was bad and I have been playing with cars along time and very rarely grip, but this deal was terrible and I had to say something. They lost all my busniess and respect.
Sincerely Jeff M.

another bad experience
 

I just heard another story of a bad experience. They got the wrong trim parts, and no explaination or eta for the right ones. FYI

2901
 

hey 2901 have viewed this , thanks for the support and I hope you have made good chioces