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bakerboys 04-10-2008 07:18 PM

trying to run 9 seconds
 
can a i run 9 seconds with a bbc 13.5 compression on two hits of nitrous, along with the right stuff in trans and rear. car is a 1985 buick regal i think the weight is about 3300 pounds.

rob41willys 04-10-2008 07:37 PM

Would depend on the combination and how much the car weigh's

Tod74 04-10-2008 10:31 PM

yes.

Oldewalnut 04-11-2008 01:03 AM

Pretty simple, unless things have changed over the years (got a REAL strong feeling they haven't). CUBIC DOLLARS! "Used to say at the Speed Shop, back in the day when there used to be speed shops, LOL. "How fast you wanna go, how much you got to spend"?

After spending all the money, "all you gots to do is tune both the motor AND the car".

Seriously, good luck. When I sought to get a car into the 10's, took alot of work and sweat and dollars. Parts are alot better today, bet it still takes a fair bit of sweat and work.

bjuice 04-11-2008 08:26 AM

In a school Bus....NO... :roll:

In a decent hooking 3,000 lb (less) car....YES...

bakerboys 04-15-2008 04:12 PM

would a manual or electric water and fuel pump work on a motor with that type of compression. what types of pumps do you suggest

bjuice 04-15-2008 04:35 PM

i would stay away from any type of manual water pump on a race engine or HP street engine..just for the fact if you throw a belt its gonna be bad news..plus the less drag on the crank equal HP

elkymann 04-15-2008 04:36 PM

reply
 
You can run what ever you want for fuel and water pumps, they just need to NOT leak, and support your power level.
What size bbc are we talking about here???????
I have a 505 goin 9.80's in a 3700 vehicle and if I hit it with two kits, I would go mid 8's, and I have the parts to back that power up :D
You will need a cage, certified belts and all the rest that goes for running 9's, pants, gloves, license, and you better have a brake upgrade on this car, 140 mph+ moves real fast on a short track :shock:

I would a say, imo, that a well built 460-468cuin with good heads, and a roller nitrous cam, you will almost hit 8's, that's if the engine is built for juice, and good exh. profile on the cam.

How many hp per hit are you talkin about also, 200 + 200 more??? if so, a setup like that should put you into the low 9's for sure, provided your chassis can hold it and when you apply the hot sauce too.
We need more info on your setup, but yes like the others say, it is very doable to hit 9's.. Good luck with it.
:)
Elky
John

bakerboys 04-16-2008 07:29 PM

most likely the ci would be 512. i want two hits of about 175 on the juice.

signsbyesa 04-17-2008 10:20 AM

your compression should be perfect but how big is your cam?
you would need a HUGE lift ont he cam to get in the 9's but
with spray you might go faster, john cunningham ran a nove
on the pump gas drags, he had a bbc with 13:1 comp and
a .850 lift cam and he was the fastest on gas he ran 9:91,
only motor, you can see his car on a web site that did his front end 8)
www.smithracecraft.com

cepx111 04-17-2008 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by signsbyesa
your compression should be perfect but how big is your cam?
you would need a HUGE lift ont he cam to get in the 9's but
with spray you might go faster, john cunningham ran a nove
on the pump gas drags, he had a bbc with 13:1 comp and
a .850 lift cam and he was the fastest on gas he ran 9:91,
only motor, you can see his car on a web site that did his front end 8)
www.smithracecraft.com

Thats a scary thought, granted I'm sure he did the math but I bet that motor didn't live long running on pump no matter how much static compression he lost due to the huge bump stick and he had notrous too?
Wow talking about pushing the limits. JMO Cp

signsbyesa 04-17-2008 02:45 PM

yea cpex, when you ask these guys if they drive it on the street they
say "I drive it all over never have heating or any other problems"
so I don't ask anymore, but too much lift for me. By the way, that
nova that john cunningham built sold on this site for 45k and the motor
has not been hurt, with spray it runs in high 9's, nice car, mini tubbed :wink:
aslo note that on the pump gas drags, they have to drive their cars
to each state and drag strip in the car they brought, no trailers 8)

pbg1941 04-18-2008 05:33 PM

I will answer your question with a question! Why? If you start running 9's you are going to spend big bucks that you don't have to spend running 10's! Examples: Firesuit, engine diaper, parachute, licensing and medical exam just to name a few! My 1971 RS Camaro is certified but I have no intentions of running it in the 9's with a small block. It has ran 10.03 at 133 and that is just fine! Maybe you don't race were the temperature gets up to 110 degrees on race nights but when it does racing is not fun! :?: :roll: 8)

bjuice 04-19-2008 03:57 AM

in my opinion the fire suit and engine diaper (cheaper one) is a not a bad idea for any class or test and tune guy to have and wear..

fire and skin don't mix and oil and tires don't go well either. :idea:

suicidebomb 04-19-2008 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by bjuice
in my opinion the fire suit and engine diaper (cheaper one) is a not a bad idea for any class or test and tune guy to have and wear..

fire and skin don't mix and oil and tires don't go well either. :idea:

JMO this is common sense, I know that wearing a lot of safety equipment is uncomfortable, especially when the temperature and humidity is high, but we owe it to ourselves and families to protect our lives and well being to the best of our ability. OK i'll get off the soapbox.
suicidebomb

zipper06 04-19-2008 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by suicidebomb

Originally Posted by bjuice
in my opinion the fire suit and engine diaper (cheaper one) is a not a bad idea for any class or test and tune guy to have and wear..

fire and skin don't mix and oil and tires don't go well either. :idea:

JMO this is common sense, I know that wearing a lot of safety equipment is uncomfortable, especially when the temperature and humidity is high, but we owe it to ourselves and families to protect our lives and well being to the best of our ability. OK i'll get off the soapbox.
suicidebomb

AMEN too that, hehe, not getting off the soapbox suicidebomb, absolutely if you don't have the clothing don't get a fire in the kitchen.

But in reality it's easy to run in the 9's with a rat motor at 3300 lbs. i just put together a 477" no nitrous, 1050 dom. on gas in a 3700lb car it went 10.44 3rd. pass and 10.40 on the 5th pass down the track, but with a much smaller cam .722 lift.

JMO

Zip.

bakerboys 04-22-2008 06:04 PM

how good is Howards cams and racing components

fredkar 04-24-2008 12:20 PM

nos is cheap power and can cost you parts. better to build horsepower on the motor. its much cheaper in the long run.

suicidebomb 04-24-2008 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by fredkar
nos is cheap power and can cost you parts. better to build horsepower on the motor. its much cheaper in the long run.

I aint trying to start no SH, but NOS would turn my car into the SUICIDE BOMB, instant frag in the hands of someone like me! :lol: :lol:


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