add Ad #1627095 from Mike 2124 is a scam
 

Like an Idiot I fell for it. He now has $500 of mine and I have no Kart. Talked with him by phone, text and email for 2 days, but as soon as he got the money, now the Kart is ruined (he said via text) and won't call or return calls. Yet when I had a friend call, he said the kart was still available and that nothing was wrong with the Kart. Wanted him to make an offer, said he'd pay for shipping and that he was selling because he was getting deployed. All the same BS he fed me. :x :x :x :evil:

Lets see what happends when i call.

All I got was a Voicemail.

What method of payment did you send him? Cash, Check Charge?

I sent him a message asking what his bottom dollar was in cash, lets see if he replies. If you sent a check or money order you may have some legal action. Was he supposed to ship the cart to you or were you going to pick it up? Do you have his address or full name?

thecurti

Check your PMs- There is info on how to pursue the seller and it doesnt require legal action.

Scorp

If what says is true we have us a live one...

I just spoke to Seller on the phone, Says his name is Bill Hurter.
says the cart is in great shape, never wrecked and the engine only has 15 minutes of run time.

When I asked him particulars/specifics on the cart, he did not seem to really know much including the size of the engine, but he gauanatees its the all new and ready to go...

He told me that he needs to sell it before he enters the military next week. Says he'll take 600 bucks shipped. If I would send him a deposit of 300.00 he would ship the cart to me and then I could send him the balance after I received the cart.

I smell a fish.

I also did a quick search for Mr. Hurter on the internet, no home phone is listed.

A reverse phone search shows his cell was issued out of Tuscaloosa, Alamaba.

His address is
10965 Hwy 31
Evergreen, Al. 36401
205-210-6151

I got an email reply:

From: mike2124 To: harbone66 Date: 2009-08-20 11:02:25
Subject: Re: DIRT TRACK KART COMPLETE
Re: Ad #1627095 - DIRT TRACK KART COMPLETE

600 shipped

On [2009-08-20 10:43:57] harbone66 wrote:
> Whats your bottom dollar cash?
>
> Thanks
> Chris

now I want to see if I can get some more info...

:D

:D ?

whats that smiley face for???

just happy i sold the kart before i ship to basic.. that is all. even sold it damanged now i just got to send the on got back his money.. if you talk to him let him now that i will do that tomm. thnks

so you took some guys cash, never sent the cart, never returned his emails or phone calls. now you want to come on here and brag about selling the cart as damaged, WTF?

you are apparently to stupid to understand what i am saying. i had sold the kart to the a guy/. it then got damdanged. i told him that i would send him back his money but he is also to stpid to understand that. i then got a call on the kart and i told the guy that the kart ws damaged and he said he could fix it. so he drove down to where i live and looked at the kart and bought it anyway. so now i am going toi send the other guy his money back... do you understand that now... is that clear enough for you buddy :D

too STUPID TO SPELL STUPID :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
SO IF YOU SOLD IT ALREADY , WHY ARE YOU STILL TELLING PEOPLE TO SEND YOU MONEY :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

no, I dont understand the part about not returning his calls. Plus you are kind of hard to understand, you must be the stupid one since you dont know how to spell the word!!! :lol:

Mike,
You just labeled yourself a loser! Sickens me to know a piece of garbage like you is being deployed (which is probably a lie too) to watch the backs of your fellow American. I bet your comrades in arms will not be able to depend on your worthless ass in a pinch.

The only stupid phucker in here is YOU! BTW, your hacking up of the english language is excellent.

plus did the guy who just bought the cart show up in the last hour to get it? you sent me a message about an hour ago saying it was still for sale and you wanted $600 shipped. then when I replied and said how much for the kart if I picked it up it magically was sold in 5 minutes...

yes he got to my house about 10 mins after i returned a email. thanks guys. its been a blast talking to you all. i will chat you up in 4 years. thanks

yes it just sold.

I wonder if with the personal info already obtained it would be possible to locate his recruiting office/branch of service and advise them of his integrity?
Surely should curti not get his $ back, it then becomes a felony. Just a thought.

Yeah just hope you do come to where I am at in Iraq.

i will be going to aphgan. not iraq... and my recruiter is sgt. walker. out of brewton al. you are more than welcome to call him if you would like. you obviously have no life. you sit on your comp all day and post messages like little school girls. and just so you know. 500 is a misdamener. 501 is a felony but sincel i have done nothing wron then it will become of nothing. i would love to sit and play girly games with ou guys but i cant. i have to go pack as i leave out in a couple of days for meps. bood bye my girls

SO , ARE YOU GOING TO SEND THE MAN HIS MONEY BACK BEFORE YOU LEAVE??

i thought i already said that like 4 times. yes i am. i have had no intention of ripping anyone off.

Thats good to hear ....

while you are over there see if you can get into a military pre-school relearning class. that way you can come back and shows us the new spelling skills you learned while you were away! :lol:

ill be sure to do that chris

Bill, or Mike or whoever he is doesn't appear to be firing on all cylinders..

I don't beleieve a word he says.

He never mentioned to me that the cart was broke when I spoke with him..

yeah, I thought that was funny too. he never mentioned anything about damage on any of the emails he sent me...
just another loser that got caught!

Well and the funny thing is nobody I mean NOBODY knows if they will be oging to Iraq or Afghanistan before they even sign the contract to join the military. I should know due to the fact that I just got out of the Army after spending 9 years in. So I think he is just lying out his A** just so he doesnt get into trouble with his mommy and daddy.

Chris-Chris , some of these stupid people you have to talk slow to, Your typing too fast for him to read, please slow down some. He doesn't understand he is a scammer that took someone's money and didn't ship the kart :!: :!:


''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

I know Mopar, I just thought it was funny that 1 minute he is ready to sell me the cart and the next minute its sold. what a crock of shiet!!!!
I just hope the guy who started the thread gets his money back...

Shipping out
 

I feel sorry for the unit that gets stuck with your sorry butt. Personally, I doubt you make it through basic.

Mike2124-well done for admitting that you owe Thecurti his payment back-That will help his case should it go to litigation.

Regarding $500 and the felony rule, no problem there- he has more than $500 invested and your prior email suggests you wont take less than $600. So the deal must have been $500 and $100 at pick-up- correct Thecurti? No longer a misdemeanor now a felony.

Thecurti- look closely at the info I sent you- It will help to begin your pursuit. However i can help you further, running down any type of internet fraud is easier than you think-proliferance of the internet has required law enforcement to catch up. Its just that you must have a systematic approach. I will also help you track down his family- pretty simple once you know where the public records databases are.

The methods I can share with you DO NOT suggest legal- its all tactics that you can apply yourself.

Remember one thing- Scammers are BETTING that you wont chase them due to legal fees- when you remove that from the equation, things get much more interesting- I have dealt with nearly 5 attempted scams including one from an attorney (he was turned in to the AZ Bar)- Each one caved; one cried on the phone.

Bold talk by the scammer conceals fear.

Mike 2124 congrats on deployment, kudos to you for your flippancy to the forum users and your beligerance.

Now lets see how smart you really are :)

Scorp

He is a liar and a thief,they go hand and hand,he got caught,and now he is squirming out of it.

This post is stamped- Everyone should have his info. if you want to find him, his relatives, current addresses, family member addresses, utility bills, pending court cases- its oh so simple.

Just start with a fingerprint.

Scorp

Chris- good job getting him onto the forum- dontcha think?

Worked pretty well :)

Scorp

Stamped- The curti you will need this should you pursue as a felony.

Bottom dollar $600.

Scorp

Stamped and now uneditable- The curti it may actually be factual and possibly useful.

Scorp

Scorp,
Yes that worked out great! Ya know he never did reply to my buddies email but he sure did jump on the forum real fast and just made more of a fool of himself. If thats the direction our armed forces is headed I better go get some bigger guns and more ammo!

he has new name already on racing junk m24242424 :(

That was fast :shock: