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blownalky3 01-15-2010 05:34 PM

NV MAY I HAVE A WORD WITH YOU IN PRIVATE?????
 
I would like to please ask you to refrain from upsetting other people with your abrassive verbage. There has to be another more appropriate way to get the same point accross, in a gentler, kinder manner. It is really upsetting to some innocent people who read these threads and it would be greatly appreciated if you would stop cussing and talking negatively about people. In the end it will only make you feel better to get along with all the others and to purge all the negativiity. It will help your health, your overall attitude and rejuvinate your zest for life. I sincerely hope you have calmed down and are able to rationally go over the days events, wash the slate clean and start out anew. You will feel so much better, I promise. Below there is some great reading I have cut and pasted for you to help calm the situation. If there is any way I can help, please do not hesitate to ask as I will be happy to assist in any way I can.

Thank you for your attention in this matter. See below




There are 1000s of article like this one. Not saying that we as humans are perfect, and will not fall prey to negative people, and play there negative games. But the less you do,the healthier,and happier you will be.


No matter where we go, we will face people who are negative, people who oppose our ideas, people who piss us off or people who simply do not like us. There are 6.4 billion people out there and conflict is a fact of life. This fact isn’t the cause of conflict but it is the trigger to our emotions and our emotions are what drive us back to our most basic survival instinct; react and attack back to defend ourselves.

In these instinctual moments, we may lose track of our higher selves and become the human animal with an urge to protect ourselves when attacked. This too is natural. However, we are the only animal blessed with intelligence and having the ability to control our responses. So how can we do that?

I regularly get asked “How do you deal with the negative comments about your articles? They are brutal. I don’t think I could handle them.” My answer is simple, “I don’t let it bother me to begin with.” It wasn’t always this simple, and took me some time before overcoming this natural urgency to protect myself and attack back.

I know it’s not easy, if it was easy, there wouldn’t be difficult or negative people to begin with.


Why Bother Controlling Our Responses?

Hurting Ourselves - One of my favorite sayings is “Holding a grudge against someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.” The only person we hurt is ourselves. When we react to negativity, we are disturbing our inner space and mentally creating pain within ourselves.

It’s Not About You, It’s About Them - I’ve learned that when people initiate negativity, it is a reflection of their inner state expressed externally and you just happen to be in front of that expression. It’s not personal, so why do we take it personally? In short: Because our ego likes problems and conflict. People are often so bored and unhappy with their own lives that they want to take others down with them. There have been many times when a random person has left a purposefully hurtful comment , and regularly checked back to see if anyone else responded to their comment, waiting eagerly to respond with more negativity.

Battle of the Ego - When we respond impulsively, it is a natural and honest response. However, is it the smart thing to do? What can be resolved by doing so? The answer: Nothing. It does however feed our ego’s need for conflict. Have you noticed that when we fight back, it feels really satisfying in our heads? But it doesn’t feel very good in our soul? Our stomach becomes tight, and we start having violent thoughts? When we do respond irrationally, it turns the conversation from a one-sided negative expression into a battle of two egos. It becomes an unnecessary and unproductive battle for Who is Right?

Anger Feeds Anger. Negativity Feeds Negativity. - Rarely can any good come out of reacting against someone who is in a negative state. It will only trigger anger and an additional reactive response from that person. If we do respond impulsively, we’ll have invested energy in the defending of ourselves and we’ll feel more psychologically compelled to defend ourselves going forward. Have you noticed that the angrier our thoughts become, the angrier we become? It’s a negative downward spiral.

Waste of Energy - Where attention goes, energy flows. What we focus on tends to expand itself. Since we can only focus on one thing at a time, energy spent on negativity is energy that could have been spent on our personal wellbeing.

Negativity Spreads - I’ve found that once I allow negativity in one area of my life, it starts to subtly bleed into other areas as well. When we are in a negative state or holding a grudge against someone, we don’t feel very good. We carry that energy with us as we go about our day. When we don’t feel very good, we lose sight of clarity and may react unconsciously to matters in other areas of our lives, unnecessarily.

Freedom of Speech - People are as entitled to their opinions as you are. Allow them to express how they feel and let it be. Remember that it’s all relative and a matter of perspective. What we consider positive can be perceived by another as negative. When we react, it becomes me-versus-you, who is right? Some people may have a less than eloquent way of expressing themselves - it may even be offensive, but they are still entitled to do so. They have the right to express their own opinions and we have the right and will power to choose our responses. We can choose peace or we can choose conflict.

Harbone 01-15-2010 05:36 PM

did he PM this to you Paul :?:

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 02:04 PM

Re: NV MAY I HAVE A WORD WITH YOU IN PRIVATE?????
 

Originally Posted by blownalky3
I would like to please ask you to refrain from upsetting other people with your abrassive verbage. There has to be another more appropriate way to get the same point accross, in a gentler, kinder manner. It is really upsetting to some innocent people who read these threads and it would be greatly appreciated if you would stop cussing and talking negatively about people. In the end it will only make you feel better to get along with all the others and to purge all the negativiity. It will help your health, your overall attitude and rejuvinate your zest for life. I sincerely hope you have calmed down and are able to rationally go over the days events, wash the slate clean and start out anew. You will feel so much better, I promise. Below there is some great reading I have cut and pasted for you to help calm the situation. If there is any way I can help, please do not hesitate to ask as I will be happy to assist in any way I can

Thank you for your attention in this matter. See below




There are 1000s of article like this one. Not saying that we as humans are perfect, and will not fall prey to negative people, and play there negative games. But the less you do,the healthier,and happier you will be.


No matter where we go, we will face people who are negative, people who oppose our ideas, people who piss us off or people who simply do not like us. There are 6.4 billion people out there and conflict is a fact of life. This fact isn’t the cause of conflict but it is the trigger to our emotions and our emotions are what drive us back to our most basic survival instinct; react and attack back to defend ourselves.

In these instinctual moments, we may lose track of our higher selves and become the human animal with an urge to protect ourselves when attacked. This too is natural. However, we are the only animal blessed with intelligence and having the ability to control our responses. So how can we do that?

I regularly get asked “How do you deal with the negative comments about your articles? They are brutal. I don’t think I could handle them.” My answer is simple, “I don’t let it bother me to begin with.” It wasn’t always this simple, and took me some time before overcoming this natural urgency to protect myself and attack back.

I know it’s not easy, if it was easy, there wouldn’t be difficult or negative people to begin with.


Why Bother Controlling Our Responses?

Hurting Ourselves - One of my favorite sayings is “Holding a grudge against someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.” The only person we hurt is ourselves. When we react to negativity, we are disturbing our inner space and mentally creating pain within ourselves.

It’s Not About You, It’s About Them - I’ve learned that when people initiate negativity, it is a reflection of their inner state expressed externally and you just happen to be in front of that expression. It’s not personal, so why do we take it personally? In short: Because our ego likes problems and conflict. People are often so bored and unhappy with their own lives that they want to take others down with them. There have been many times when a random person has left a purposefully hurtful comment , and regularly checked back to see if anyone else responded to their comment, waiting eagerly to respond with more negativity.

Battle of the Ego - When we respond impulsively, it is a natural and honest response. However, is it the smart thing to do? What can be resolved by doing so? The answer: Nothing. It does however feed our ego’s need for conflict. Have you noticed that when we fight back, it feels really satisfying in our heads? But it doesn’t feel very good in our soul? Our stomach becomes tight, and we start having violent thoughts? When we do respond irrationally, it turns the conversation from a one-sided negative expression into a battle of two egos. It becomes an unnecessary and unproductive battle for Who is Right?

Anger Feeds Anger. Negativity Feeds Negativity. - Rarely can any good come out of reacting against someone who is in a negative state. It will only trigger anger and an additional reactive response from that person. If we do respond impulsively, we’ll have invested energy in the defending of ourselves and we’ll feel more psychologically compelled to defend ourselves going forward. Have you noticed that the angrier our thoughts become, the angrier we become? It’s a negative downward spiral.

Waste of Energy - Where attention goes, energy flows. What we focus on tends to expand itself. Since we can only focus on one thing at a time, energy spent on negativity is energy that could have been spent on our personal wellbeing.

Negativity Spreads - I’ve found that once I allow negativity in one area of my life, it starts to subtly bleed into other areas as well. When we are in a negative state or holding a grudge against someone, we don’t feel very good. We carry that energy with us as we go about our day. When we don’t feel very good, we lose sight of clarity and may react unconsciously to matters in other areas of our lives, unnecessarily.

Freedom of Speech - People are as entitled to their opinions as you are. Allow them to express how they feel and let it be. Remember that it’s all relative and a matter of perspective. What we consider positive can be perceived by another as negative. When we react, it becomes me-versus-you, who is right? Some people may have a less than eloquent way of expressing themselves - it may even be offensive, but they are still entitled to do so. They have the right to express their own opinions and we have the right and will power to choose our responses. We can choose peace or we can choose conflict.

Cute. At least I know you read it twice.

And I'll answer before you ask. I tried to quit RJ. Even called to ask how.They said since I was paid for the year,I would have to wait till my subscription expired. So might as well get my monies worth


BTW Thats copy and paste not cut and paste. If I can help you with anything else let me know.

Harbone 01-16-2010 02:47 PM

HERE YOU GO YOU LOW LIFE, PEA BRAIN,F***ING POS. I STAMPED THEM AND PUT THEM AT THE END SO YOUR STUPID AZZ CAN FIND THEM. I HAD THE WRONG PERSON THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT YOU STILL MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE NEPHEWS MOTHER.

SO AGAIN MY POINT TO YOUR PEA BRAIN AZZ WAS WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING SH** ABOUT MY FAMILY. YOU MIGHT BE THE ONE THATS RELATED SINCE THATS THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO PLAY AT. BUT THEN AGAIN THEY APPOLGIZED AFTERWARDS,YOU BRAGGED ABOUT IT. SO WHAT EVER YOU THINK ABOUT LITTLEHOTROD ,PUT YOURSELF BELOW HIM.BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE MAGGET.

AND I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS ABOUT THE LAST FEW POST. WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING FAMILY INTO THIS YOU F***ING DESERVE MORE THAN WHAT IM ABLE TO GIVE FROM HERE. AND ANYONE THAT WANTS TO BACK YOU UP. AM I BEING RUDE, CRUDE AND ABUSIVE. YOU BET YOUR F***ING AZZ I AM.

I knew it was to good to be true, last post my azz!! :twisted:

Scorpion1110 01-16-2010 02:48 PM

Forum-

Do not use quote when you respond to NVMYVETTES posts- but rather do a copy or cut (either is correct) and paste of his post by using your right mouse key. Limit it to his words.

He WANTS you to do a quote because it keeps repeating his lengthy posts and clogs up the forum. If you quote him, quote his words, not those that he borrows uncredited from others.

Scorp

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by harbone66
HERE YOU GO YOU LOW LIFE, PEA BRAIN,F***ING POS. I STAMPED THEM AND PUT THEM AT THE END SO YOUR STUPID AZZ CAN FIND THEM. I HAD THE WRONG PERSON THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT YOU STILL MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE NEPHEWS MOTHER.

SO AGAIN MY POINT TO YOUR PEA BRAIN AZZ WAS WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING SH** ABOUT MY FAMILY. YOU MIGHT BE THE ONE THATS RELATED SINCE THATS THE LEVEL YOU LIKE TO PLAY AT. BUT THEN AGAIN THEY APPOLGIZED AFTERWARDS,YOU BRAGGED ABOUT IT. SO WHAT EVER YOU THINK ABOUT LITTLEHOTROD ,PUT YOURSELF BELOW HIM.BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE MAGGET.

AND I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS ABOUT THE LAST FEW POST. WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING FAMILY INTO THIS YOU F***ING DESERVE MORE THAN WHAT IM ABLE TO GIVE FROM HERE. AND ANYONE THAT WANTS TO BACK YOU UP. AM I BEING RUDE, CRUDE AND ABUSIVE. YOU BET YOUR F***ING AZZ I AM.

I knew it was to good to be true, last post my azz!! :twisted:

Like I said before, nobodys perfect. When Mr Arnold posted like father like son, he was ragging on a five year old and a five month old,(My sons).And then Dragon rags on my 71 year old die hard christian mother(Im still sucking on her teete).Yes I lost it. And I've read where most of you stand on this issue. You see nothing wrong with it. So we can leave it there. I accept that.The bottom line is, I dont care for you and you dont care for me. I can live with that.

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 04:04 PM

checking up dates

dragonmaster093 01-16-2010 04:37 PM

between vettes and this now we know where the holyer then thou attitude comes from
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dragonmaster093 01-16-2010 05:00 PM

and the other benz he has on here

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 05:07 PM

Dragonfly, or whatever your call sign is


I love Cars. Guilty
I Buy Sell And Trade. Guilty
I Collect Cars. Guilty
Proud Of It. Guilty

Talking S*** about someones mother. Not Guilty. Can you say the same?

And if anyone wants see you dont have to follow dragonS***s advice. Just click on my profile in this post and check my profile and ads out.. Its public. But Im sure most people that a smart enough to post allready knew this. But some just dont have a clue though.Probably just now figuring out theres another one. Once you get that figured out, theres 2 more. And then you might eventually discover theres albums there to. That should keep you busy for a while.

CustomTanks 01-16-2010 05:40 PM

Man I love MB I would love to have a new one

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 05:43 PM

Way to go Peyton and Reggie!!!! Great Play. 17 to 3 @ 1/2 time. For those that follow football

dragonmaster093 01-16-2010 05:49 PM

hey retard never spoke about some ones mother thanks check the facts oh wait yould have to swallow that arrogant pride and attitude know lots of people who collect sell and buy/ trade and arent as concided as you. hell i know a vett owner and collector who has no use for people like you. and you wanna accuse me of shit ill go here in the caption of one of your pics she where son was consived that mean she was getting some from a real man down the hall? cause you aint sh!t and a discredit to any car builder collecter racer the whole car community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by CustomTanks
Man I love MB I would love to have a new one

Man me to. Since we're wishing, the Mercedes SLR Mclaren is the bomb.I think its close to a half a mil though.The wifes 500SL surprises me for what it is. Its only got 300 Hp but its small.

CustomTanks 01-16-2010 05:57 PM

I make alot of tanks for the SL They are nice

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 06:03 PM

Tanks? Gas?

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by dragonmaster093
hey retard never spoke about some ones mother thanks check the facts oh wait yould have to swallow that arrogant pride and attitude know lots of people who collect sell and buy/ trade and arent as concided as you. hell i know a vett owner and collector who has no use for people like you. and you wanna accuse me of s ill go here in the caption of one of your pics she where son was consived that mean she was getting some from a real man down the hall? cause you aint sh!t and a discredit to any car builder collecter racer the whole car community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it was you send me my child support check. But I doubt you've been out of the trailor park long enough to go to Mexico.

Scorpion1110 01-16-2010 06:15 PM

Forum Users-

What would happen if you made NVMYVETTES invisible? Simply ignore him. Darell loves to provoke, but bottom line is he never says anything.

So just ignore him.

Sam- he is not worth your trouble and response. Blown, why should he even get a post from you? Chris, at the end of the day do you care about his opinion?

You can keep you eye on him and point out his spelling and grammar errors, if you want some sport but he doesn't have an opinion- UNLESS YOU LET HIM HAVE ONE.

Scorp

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Forum Users-

What would happen if you made NVMYVETTES invisible? Simply ignore him. Darell loves to provoke, but bottom line is he never says anything.

So just ignore him.

Sam- he is not worth your trouble and response. Blown, why should he even get a post from you? Chris, at the end of the day do you care about his opinion?

You can keep you eye on him and point out his spelling and grammar errors, if you want some sport but he doesn't have an opinion- UNLESS YOU LET HIM HAVE ONE.

Scorp

Provoke? More like defend and respond. But I love your idea though. Ignor me. Then I can go on about my business instead wasting my time responding to your crews stupid and childish remarks. This could very well be my last post on this matter. Just leave me alone.(Ignore Me)

BTW since we're spell checking its Darrell not Darell.

Scorpion1110 01-16-2010 06:39 PM

Hey Chris, Sam:

If you listen carefully you'll hear...............

Crickets.

Scorp

And for those who care, ignore is spelled with an "e" at the end- In case anyone on here ever spells it wrong.

nvmyvettes 01-16-2010 06:47 PM

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bjuice 01-16-2010 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by nvmyvettes

Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Forum Users-

What would happen if you made NVMYVETTES invisible? Simply ignore him. Darell loves to provoke, but bottom line is he never says anything.

So just ignore him.

Sam- he is not worth your trouble and response. Blown, why should he even get a post from you? Chris, at the end of the day do you care about his opinion?

You can keep you eye on him and point out his spelling and grammar errors, if you want some sport but he doesn't have an opinion- UNLESS YOU LET HIM HAVE ONE.

Scorp

Provoke? More like defend and respond. But I love your idea though. Ignor me. Then I can go on about my business instead wasting my time responding to your crews stupid and childish remarks. This could very well be my last post on this matter. Just leave me alone.(Ignore Me)

BTW since we're spell checking its Darrell not Darell.



you ever played PEE-WEE thru HIGHSCHOOL Football ?.......we had a drill excercise (early 70's thru early 80's) called BULL-IN-THE-RING....if you are familier with this Drill i will have to say no more... :roll:

MEMRACING62 01-16-2010 09:02 PM

http://www.y-coach.com/CD/Football_-...Ring_Drill.htm

mopar1968 01-16-2010 09:06 PM

I was going to ask what is bull in the ring but i think i figured it out :!: :!: I think :? :? Oh i got it now, :lol: :lol: I didn't play football too hot headed :twisted: :twisted:



''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

bjuice 01-16-2010 09:17 PM

here is a Vid..not many Vids out there of the original BULL-IN-THE-RING,since Its an outlawed exercise this day and time ( Too Brutal)...the semi-pro team in the Vid demonstrates what the real BULL-IN-THE-RING is all about......watch the whole vid...the excerise is at the end of Vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FioYRo77sd8

mopar1968 01-16-2010 09:25 PM

Man poor old #23 didn't have a chance :lol: :lol:




''JUST MY TWO CENT'S WORTH''

nvmyvettes 01-17-2010 02:16 AM

Bjuice, Yes to all. Thanks

MEMRACING62 01-17-2010 07:48 AM

I think its about time EVERYBODY quit sitting around looking for things to get pissed or insulted about. Nobody here knows anbodys momma, kids, wives, dogs.......etc.......etc. So any of these remarks about any of them are just bogus bs. Now vettes, you think we should talk to scammers nicer, alot of us here dont agree, but thats your opinion and thats ok. the rest of us that disagree need to look at it as just that, an opinion and move on. everybodys help here in dealing with these scumbags is valuable. I think its to stop this bs crap and go after the real enemy, SCAMMERS! not each other.

nvmyvettes 01-17-2010 08:12 AM

X2

CustomTanks 01-17-2010 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
I think its about time EVERYBODY quit sitting around looking for things to get pissed or insulted about. Nobody here knows anbodys momma, kids, wives, dogs.......etc.......etc. So any of these remarks about any of them are just bogus bs. Now vettes, you think we should talk to scammers nicer, alot of us here dont agree, but thats your opinion and thats ok. the rest of us that disagree need to look at it as just that, an opinion and move on. everybodys help here in dealing with these scumbags is valuable. I think its to stop this bs crap and go after the real enemy, SCAMMERS! not each other.

You said that perfect :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

lively 01-17-2010 09:24 AM

IF A SCAMMER TRUELLY IS SORRY AND 'MAKES IT ALL RIGHT' :roll: :roll:
THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL I TRY TO GET ALONG AND BE NICE [BUT CAUTIOUS] TO THEM :oops: :oops:

OTHERWISE--SCAMMERS SUCK AND ARE NOTHING BUT CROOKS AND SHOULD BE TREATED A CROOKS!!!!! 8) 8)

LIVELY

dragonmaster093 01-17-2010 09:52 AM

2x

blownalky3 01-17-2010 09:59 AM

MEM, I MOSTLY agree. I really have done nothing to help in the pursuit of scammers other than follow along reading the threads and offering my opinion to some topics, so I might be out of line to be upset at his tactics. But I do frequent this forum, and that is my opinion, he disrespects its members and their results. The real helpers know who they are and do SO MUCH TO HELP PEOPLE. Now this particular crap got started by the very same guy who thinks it should just go away. The very same guy who criticizes the methods and RESULTS gotten by all of you. The same guy who said he paid $700 shipping when the other guy paid half. The same guy who does what he does, NOT WHAT HE SAYS & PREACHES. In case you forgot

HE PURPOSLY BROUGHT THE "SHARKS GO TO FAR" THREAD BACK TO THE TOP..... TO STIR UP CRAP.............. AGAIN.................

I don't have a problem ignoring him, but it does pisss me off that he insults the FORUMS work and how they achieve it. I get to see many people (Bosses)who chastise people for doing things and then turn right around and do it themselves. They somehow justify that "it's different". I get it because I have over 700 people who work WITH me and I see it every day, multiple times. The same guy who has attended motivational courses and bought many books does not follow the teachings???? WHY?My management style is very simple. Treat people fair, help them grow, pick them up when they fall AND, I never do a single thing I ask them not to do. It does not seem fair to me not to set the example that I am asking for. And given I have this many employees, it is a fair assumption I must have some motivational skills and can deal with some pretty tense situations.

Just look at my case here. I started to do exactly as envy is doing. I however very quickly realized that that path was fruitless and I should try to get all to better understand my side in a different way. While I maintain I was 100 percent correct in what I told my buyer, I presented it in a manner which left many areas gray. After getting pisssed, I apologized to Tom, Bjuice and the others for my getting carried away and I proved what I said was accurate. Did it fix the jerk who scammed me? Not at all. He never even made an attempt to make things right or make an honor payment. HE STILL HAS 4 NAMES ON RJ, HE IS JUST LIKE LITTLEHOTROD. I have since been very careful about posting my opinion and I only comment on the ones that some one has been really wronged. I have not picked a fight in other words. This can't be said for X2 MEM. I get what you are saying and agree, but it is time for this guy to respect what you ALL have done and to practice what he preaches. Till he apologizes to you ALL, he remains a talker and antagonist, not an achiever in my book.

Sorry for the rant, not sorry for what is FACT

Scorpion1110 01-17-2010 12:07 PM

Blown-

Along the lines of what your post points out-there's another thread (locked) where Darrell makes a big deal about bringing his family into it (his children) and I agree that has no place here.

Yet he DID exactly the same thing when he posted the pictures of John Miller's residence- brought HIS (Miller's) Family into the issue.

I have made that point previosuly, but when you are dealing with NVMYVETTES' posts you are playing a game of Three Card Monte- its about misdirection, smokescreens and not answering questions.

Thats just what it is.

And folks- read his thread on Miller and the T-bucket. It was the most immediately agressive post that I can remember- thats why I brought it to the top the other day- find a minute and re-read it- it was an immediate blitz of aggression.

When we start to examine a scammer post- things come out gradually while opinions are being formed- this was IMMEDIATE AND AGRESSIVE and included emails, and pictures of a man's home.

And did you ever possibly think about why Miller did not accept the trade? If he got to the point where he knew it was on the truck and heading to Ohio, then he expected to keep the car- I dont nor did I ever think it was cold feet- I always felt there were representation issues and also always felt Vettes' immediate and agressive stance was to try and bully Miller because NVMYVETTES' thought he was making a killing in the deal.

In other words he felt the T was far more valuable than his glass Bird. Think about it, and what do you think Gentlemen?

The numbers are there-add them up and you will get the answer.

Scorp

nvmyvettes 01-17-2010 01:01 PM

Guys the best game of the week end is on. So I'll pause for the cause. But I will address the last 2 posts after.

DirkaDirka 01-17-2010 01:02 PM

Hey Scorp I went and looked at the pics of both cars and I do agree there was a misrepresentation of one of them. I found a few faults when I wasnt even looking closely at the car. I felt that what was done was done in good taste and that they were not trying to scam anybody. JMO

MEMRACING62 01-17-2010 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by MEMRACING62
I think its about time EVERYBODY quit sitting around looking for things to get pissed or insulted about. Nobody here knows anbodys momma, kids, wives, dogs.......etc.......etc. So any of these remarks about any of them are just bogus bs. Now vettes, you think we should talk to scammers nicer, alot of us here dont agree, but thats your opinion and thats ok. the rest of us that disagree need to look at it as just that, an opinion and move on. everybodys help here in dealing with these scumbags is valuable. I think its to stop this bs crap and go after the real enemy, SCAMMERS! not each other.

scorp, blownalky, I do not agree with the way mr vettes handled his case with mr miller. Early in the thread when mr vettes began to criticize this forum on the way we handled scammers I was the one who brought up the point about the pic's that he posted of mr millers residence, he was wrong in doing that ,it was meant for intimidation, period. my post above is limited ONLYto what it says, not condoning mr vettes action in anyway. livley says it best SCAMMERS SUCK NO RESPECT REQUIRED IN DEALING WITH THEM. blownalky, your management style is the same as mine, I have 10 employees , treat them as you want to be treated they will watch your back. I didn't go to any school to learn that!!

nvmyvettes 01-17-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by blownalky3
MEM, I MOSTLY agree. I really have done nothing to help in the pursuit of scammers other than follow along reading the threads and offering my opinion to some topics, so I might be out of line to be upset at his tactics. But I do frequent this forum, and that is my opinion, he disrespects its members and their results. The real helpers know who they are and do SO MUCH TO HELP PEOPLE. Now this particular crap got started by the very same guy who thinks it should just go away. The very same guy who criticizes the methods and RESULTS gotten by all of you. The same guy who said he paid $700 shipping when the other guy paid half. The same guy who does what he does, NOT WHAT HE SAYS & PREACHES. In case you forgot

HE PURPOSLY BROUGHT THE "SHARKS GO TO FAR" THREAD BACK TO THE TOP..... TO STIR UP CRAP.............. AGAIN.................

I don't have a problem ignoring him, but it does pisss me off that he insults the FORUMS work and how they achieve it. I get to see many people (Bosses)who chastise people for doing things and then turn right around and do it themselves. They somehow justify that "it's different". I get it because I have over 700 people who work WITH me and I see it every day, multiple times. The same guy who has attended motivational courses and bought many books does not follow the teachings???? WHY?My management style is very simple. Treat people fair, help them grow, pick them up when they fall AND, I never do a single thing I ask them not to do. It does not seem fair to me not to set the example that I am asking for. And given I have this many employees, it is a fair assumption I must have some motivational skills and can deal with some pretty tense situations.

Just look at my case here. I started to do exactly as envy is doing. I however very quickly realized that that path was fruitless and I should try to get all to better understand my side in a different way. While I maintain I was 100 percent correct in what I told my buyer, I presented it in a manner which left many areas gray. After getting pisssed, I apologized to Tom, Bjuice and the others for my getting carried away and I proved what I said was accurate. Did it fix the jerk who scammed me? Not at all. He never even made an attempt to make things right or make an honor payment. HE STILL HAS 4 NAMES ON RJ, HE IS JUST LIKE LITTLEHOTROD. I have since been very careful about posting my opinion and I only comment on the ones that some one has been really wronged. I have not picked a fight in other words. This can't be said for X2 MEM. I get what you are saying and agree, but it is time for this guy to respect what you ALL have done and to practice what he preaches. Till he apologizes to you ALL, he remains a talker and antagonist, not an achiever in my book.

Sorry for the rant, not sorry for what is FACT

Huuuhhhrrr Snort Snort

Blown. Lets start with John23T and the $700.00.Its all there in black and white. I get message from my shipper on my answering machine that he's bringing my car back because the T had a blown motor.I then try emailing John and calling several times through the day. No answer. Then I post my issue on the forum. Harbone then emails John. John in return emails me and states he paid the driver $350.00. My 2nd post shortly after my 1st post stated that, even before I was able to confirm it with my driver. I posted several more times before Harbone posted Johns answer the next day.(I think).Go back and read it again.

I did bring the Sharks Gone To far back to the top because it had gotten off track in the end just like this one has. I have stated several times that I do not protect, condone, approve or like scammers. Thats not what any of my post has even come close to saying.I say if there real scammers give em he!! I also have stated several times that I respect what the guys do on here and what the forum is all about. I noticed your comments about the sharks giving you he!! when you posted the 1st time about you being scammed. I noticed harbone and others saying the same. You also said it pissed you off. Why? Because you were right and it was,nt fair that you got scammed and was the one catching the He!!? But you toughed it out and kept hammering away. My point is and always has been, I wander how many good people didnt tough it out, and said screw this. I'll bet the thought crossed your mind. Thats just my opinion. Not ment to stirr sh** , or offend anybody.

blownalky3 01-17-2010 04:56 PM

A couple things and I am not going to address this issue again.

You jumped the gun and posted even before your car arrived back to you. That caused you to unknowingly post false info.

You clearly crossed the line posting a pic of his house for all to see. There is no question on that point. You were out of line

You did not like the answers you got on this forum regarding your problem with the bucket AND being called out. So you lashed out. At this point I still stuck up for you............ And then came the "Sharks go to far" post you commented on. You didn't like the posts there either and got on your soap box. Problem is, you refuse to see that you are nothing like you want others to be.

All was calm, people were plugging along trying to help with issues........
AND THEN YOU BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE TOP AGAIN!!! WHY

That has been my whole point. You sure do talk a good game, try playing by your rules. You go off way too much, and talk way too much crap to be preaching to people, who by the way have been here for YEARS helping others. I feel you do not have the right to critisize any of these guys no matter what they say. Just post your thoughts how YOU want to post them. The rest is none of any ones business. When they cross the line, the Mod Squad steps in, not you.

AND NO, I NEVER THOUGHT TO JUST GIVE UP. IT IS NOT HOW I AM BUILT.

nvmyvettes 01-17-2010 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Blown-

Along the lines of what your post points out-there's another thread (locked) where Darrell makes a big deal about bringing his family into it (his children) and I agree that has no place here.

Yet he DID exactly the same thing when he posted the pictures of John Miller's residence- brought HIS (Miller's) Family into the issue.

I have made that point previosuly, but when you are dealing with NVMYVETTES' posts you are playing a game of Three Card Monte- its about misdirection, smokescreens and not answering questions.

Thats just what it is.

And folks- read his thread on Miller and the T-bucket. It was the most immediately agressive post that I can remember- thats why I brought it to the top the other day- find a minute and re-read it- it was an immediate blitz of aggression.

When we start to examine a scammer post- things come out gradually while opinions are being formed- this was IMMEDIATE AND AGRESSIVE and included emails, and pictures of a man's home.

And did you ever possibly think about why Miller did not accept the trade? If he got to the point where he knew it was on the truck and heading to Ohio, then he expected to keep the car- I dont nor did I ever think it was cold feet- I always felt there were representation issues and also always felt Vettes' immediate and agressive stance was to try and bully Miller because NVMYVETTES' thought he was making a killing in the deal.

In other words he felt the T was far more valuable than his glass Bird. Think about it, and what do you think Gentlemen?

The numbers are there-add them up and you will get the answer.

Scorp

Im glad you aggree there is no cause to bring family in this.Like Ive stated I still dont think posting Johns house could be concidered the same as talking about his mother , sons, or wife.

I havent dodged any questions. Ask away.

Yes I was aggressive in my post. But i wasnt verbally abusive though. Even though I was pizzed about my $350.00.

As far as the trade I think Ive voiced my feeling in that post. But if you still have a problem understandig it go back and read the emails that I posted between John and I. At least the last one, stating he didnt want to send me a car in that condition(Motor Problems). Also if I was trying to get over like you stated, I would have traded on the first contact instead of waiting weeks. Look at the emails.I didnt think it was that good of a deal nor did I trust him. And I sure wouldnt have sent my car to him 1st. None of of what your guessing at adds up.And the fact that John didnt get on here and explain his lies tells me all I need to know. You know this reminds me of an old girlfriend that I dated. You couldnt get anywhere arguing with here because evertime you gained ground on one point, she would realize it, and start an argument about something else. I dont know what you problem is. You act like Im jeopardizing your postion as head shark,if I am even close to right.So you have to bring me down a notch. Dont worry man Im not the enemy. Ive said it before, I respect what this foum is about and I respect what you do.My hats off to you. But just like I just posted to Blown.I dont feel the way some do on here. Thats all. Its just an opinion.


BTW If you want to know what I feel my cars worth. I have turn down an $11,000 offer over the phone and two $12000.00 offers in my drive way. And if you like I can post numerous trade offers Ive had on some very nice stuff.


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