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burnskustomz 08-17-2010 05:47 PM

Why do some circle trackers race 80's muscle cars?
 
Here some picture to put with the title and I think it explains its self.

Circle track racers that drive these cars and hurt them should think about what they are doing to a potential american classic car. I don't care how common or dime a dozen they are save yours because the way scrap metal prices are now there getting crushed/shredded everyday and eventually there going to run out and then no more cars for our children to like and love and put blood sweat tears into. And a ricer or japanese car is nothing any of my sons will be driving under my roof no matter how much gas is and I hope they will grow to respect and love the classic american automobile. And thats just the way it is.

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mopar1968 08-17-2010 06:05 PM

And a ricer or japanese car is nothing any of my sons will be driving under my roof no matter how much gas is and I hope they will grow to respect and love the classic american automobile. And thats just the way it is.


Your son's :?: And how old are you :?:

burnskustomz 08-17-2010 06:11 PM

I'm saying when I have children. LOL not any time soon!!! Gotta get my rides a shinnin' and a rumblin' cuz before any of that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

TheRabbit 08-17-2010 06:36 PM

There had to have been at least 68 billion Monte Carlo's made with at least 67.5 billion finishing it's life as a dirt track race car! Most popular dirt track car in the world. hmmm, maybe GM should bring them back :idea:

burnskustomz 08-17-2010 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by TheRabbit
There had to have been at least 68 billion Monte Carlo's made with at least 67.5 billion finishing it's life as a dirt track race car! Most popular dirt track car in the world. hmmm, maybe GM should bring them back :idea:

Well around here I see alot of 2nd gen Camaro dirt cars on a trailer atleast a couple times a week or a night, mostly on weekend nights. And seeing that I looked for every bit of 6 months for a cheap camaro all I could find in my price range was a 3rd gen or a dirt car so I chose a 3rd gen. But a local guy has alot of classic trucks cars I'm looking at mainly looking at the trucks he has 3 67 chevy c10's forsale hopefully I can sink my tooth into one LOL.

But I had been looking at cars in barns website and got disgusted and then found my self on a dirt track website and seen a camaro and that pushed it. So thats the reason for posting this!!

bjuice 08-18-2010 03:12 AM

well as far any car I SEE in the pics i personally do not see any intrest in them...unless the 2nd generation camaro is 70 thru 73,,,,,,a 1974 on up the camaro does nothing for me...never has and i guess never will..

JMO

TheRabbit 08-18-2010 04:13 AM

The only camaro I liked we the original ones and the new ones. Never liked the 80's.

Tod74 08-18-2010 10:30 AM

my family has raced street stock/hobbie stock/bomber type cars for many years...both my mom's side and my dad's.You would vomit to see the cars they have destroyed.At first it was old coups,then on to 55-57 chevies...then on into the muscle car type stuff... One was a 67 SS Chevelle..had a hole cut right in the middle of the SS hood, more CHEVY II'S than I can count..several camaros and the last 5-10 years it has been Monte Carlos.Obviously none of these cars were rare at the time.

If everyone saved them all they wouldn't be special. Besides,most dirt track cars are built from worn out junk cars and are not nearly as good as they look from the stands.Often they take cars that are wrecked or really rusty...they just use the skin of the car for the most part and they cut out the wheel openings etc so that takes care of any rust in that area..

burnskustomz 08-18-2010 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Tod74
my family has raced street stock/hobbie stock/bomber type cars for many years...both my mom's side and my dad's.You would vomit to see the cars they have destroyed.At first it was old coups,then on to 55-57 chevies...then on into the muscle car type stuff... One was a 67 SS Chevelle..had a hole cut right in the middle of the SS hood, more CHEVY II'S than I can count..several camaros and the last 5-10 years it has been Monte Carlos.Obviously none of these cars were rare at the time.

If everyone saved them all they wouldn't be special. Besides,most dirt track cars are built from worn out junk cars and are not nearly as good as they look from the stands.Often they take cars that are wrecked or really rusty...they just use the skin of the car for the most part and they cut out the wheel openings etc so that takes care of any rust in that area..

Got a point. But I just hate seeing them on trailers and knowing what will happen or has happened to them and when it was only a minor ding or spot of rust could have been fixed and made into a nice street rod.

Or better yet be made into this. This car isn't like a dirt car it isn't meant to be slammed around and rolled over.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs604...._3122030_n.jpg
Now tell me you wouldn't like to have this car and some of you may not because you may have one worth more or rarer but the average racing junkie wouldn't want this to be raced around a dirt track for peanuts and then crushed when it could have been made into a quarter mile killing machine. Eating mustangs and shitten' mopars one by one. :lol: :lol:

Scooterz 08-18-2010 01:48 PM

Well Seth, that is what makes America beautiful... freedom to go around in circles in the dirt w/a car of choice. I hear ya, many a good car has been destroyed over the years... just think if you took those pictures in "1975" at the local dirt-track... it would make you sick... like Tod said.

Guess who I got to meet??? My friend's neighbor (Buzz something) who is now about 80 tears old & did all the stunts/jumps in the "General Lee" back in the day. He also did some work for Night Rider & some James Bond movies too. He broke his back 4 times, several injuries, only is about 5Ft tall. He was the first guy to drive a car on two wheels while in the drivers seat & perfected that stunt back in the 70's. Buzz told me they wrecked 20 68-70 Chargers in less than 18 shoots (less than 1 season) once in the Duke's hay-day... there are pictures of this guy doing stunts in the local restaurants here.... cool guy. He is on union terms & still does a few minor stunts to keep his union pay... he is a wealthy guy. He meant Waylon Jennings & some other cool stars. That show put a big dent in the Charger population... anyways, not everyday you meet someone like Buzz. Scooter

burnskustomz 08-18-2010 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rigsby
Well Seth, that is what makes America beautiful... freedom to go around in circles in the dirt w/a car of choice. I hear ya, many a good car has been destroyed over the years... just think if you took those pictures in "1975" at the local dirt-track... it would make you sick... like Tod said.

Guess who I got to meet??? My friend's neighbor (Buzz something) who is now about 80 tears old & did all the stunts/jumps in the "General Lee" back in the day. He also did some work for Night Rider & some James Bond movies too. He broke his back 4 times, several injuries, only is about 5Ft tall. He was the first guy to drive a car on two wheels while in the drivers seat & perfected that stunt back in the 70's. Buzz told me they wrecked 20 68-70 Chargers in less than 18 shoots (less than 1 season) once in the Duke's hay-day... there are pictures of this guy doing stunts in the local restaurants here.... cool guy. He is on union terms & still does a few minor stunts to keep his union pay... he is a wealthy guy. He meant Waylon Jennings & some other cool stars. That show put a big dent in the Charger population... anyways, not everyday you meet someone like Buzz. Scooter

Again true. I'd have beat someone down if they had a 67-69 camaro wrecking it into walls though!!! LOL

dragonmaster093 08-18-2010 02:17 PM

also note worth i can pick up any dirt track mag or speedway motors catolog and order a complete set of skins (hood, roof, tail, quarters,and fenders) and never cut up a g-body or 70-81 camaro either

dpassmore 08-18-2010 03:24 PM

I hate to see these cars get trashed but they make good racecars. Why is it you've targeted dirt trackers? Have you been to an asphalt race? They're just as many there.

burnskustomz 08-18-2010 03:35 PM

No actually I have never been to an asphalt race. Real men head straight for the finish line!

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ar...00018_640w.jpg

BEAST477 08-18-2010 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
And a ricer or japanese car is nothing any of my sons will be driving under my roof no matter how much gas is and I hope they will grow to respect and love the classic american automobile. And thats just the way it is.


Your son's :?: And how old are you :?:

What are you 15 going on 40 ?

Quit acting like you're all grown up and been around the world :!: Now you're giving me a headache. :shock:

dpassmore 08-18-2010 05:15 PM

Actually I'm a drag racer. When my son was 9 I looked into a Jr. dragster. I couldn't afford one. So I got him a dirt oval kart instead. Then I realized how much fun he was having going 50mph (then) with other karts inches away. It taught him alot about car control that drag racing wouldn't have. He also spent 30-45 minutes actually practicing or racing each night compared to a couple of minutes if he was drag racing. And if you think it takes a real man to go straight,then maybe you should realize that he goes straight twice every lap. Only one difference. There's a wall at the end of that straight. I tried it in a kart once. My kid is more of a man than I am when it comes to that.

bjuice 08-18-2010 05:17 PM

..lol..i hear ya Beast Me too...

Ok Seth you wanted to hear it " I wouldn't have it" ( the car)


Now you need to do your Racing History Homework...all racing evolved from DIRT....thats Right Even drag Racing started on Dirt...

Give these Roundy,round Dirt racers a break they are the true american roots racing breed...

Hey man i love to see me some High HP Modified DIRT Racing


PS;
For the record about 5 years ago i drove a Winston Cup car (Ryan Newmans #12 car) about 36 laps around Darlington Speedway ( Lady in Black)...and i can tell you 1st hand its no Easy Chore....the straight-aways were no problem. but gettin in and out of those 33 degree bank turns were a Bitch and really taxing on the Body...when you hear of a driver saying they are hittng their marks...well thats what it is ...your driving blind in these turns 160mph + and you are judgeing and setting your car up as you pass Landmarks in the turns..if your off the mark the least little bit you will be in the wall coming out of the turns...

( also this was one of Ryans old cars (not his actual race day car) also it had a 600 hp motor,intsead of the 800hp race day motor....and no there was No lead pace car etc..i was on my own....)

so there is Nothing easy about it...trust me...and this is coming from a man that drives a 3,000lb 10inch tire Outlaw 4 second car...
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"I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY ! "

Tod74 08-18-2010 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by burnskustomz
No actually I have never been to an asphalt race. Real men head straight for the finish line!

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ar...00018_640w.jpg

YOU have never seen a World of Outlaw Sprint car race have you? BALLS don't get any bigger than those guys...1300lb car with 850 HP.

Tod74 08-18-2010 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rigsby
Well Seth, that is what makes America beautiful... freedom to go around in circles in the dirt w/a car of choice. I hear ya, many a good car has been destroyed over the years... just think if you took those pictures in "1975" at the local dirt-track... it would make you sick... like Tod said.

Guess who I got to meet??? My friend's neighbor (Buzz something) who is now about 80 tears old & did all the stunts/jumps in the "General Lee" back in the day. He also did some work for Night Rider & some James Bond movies too. He broke his back 4 times, several injuries, only is about 5Ft tall. He was the first guy to drive a car on two wheels while in the drivers seat & perfected that stunt back in the 70's. Buzz told me they wrecked 20 68-70 Chargers in less than 18 shoots (less than 1 season) once in the Duke's hay-day... there are pictures of this guy doing stunts in the local restaurants here.... cool guy. He is on union terms & still does a few minor stunts to keep his union pay... he is a wealthy guy. He meant Waylon Jennings & some other cool stars. That show put a big dent in the Charger population... anyways, not everyday you meet someone like Buzz. Scooter

Are you suggesting that the DUKE BOYS didn't do all those jumps themselves? Or that COOTER couldn't really straighten and paint every panel on the car in one day?

burnskustomz 08-19-2010 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tod74

Originally Posted by burnskustomz
No actually I have never been to an asphalt race. Real men head straight for the finish line!

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ar...00018_640w.jpg

YOU have never seen a World of Outlaw Sprint car race have you? BALLS don't get any bigger than those guys...1300lb car with 850 HP.

Tod I'm sure it isn't easy driving a dirt car it's just a little joke I say to some friends that race dirt track. "Real men go straight for the finish line they don't go in circles looking for it" or something along them lines but it's just a joke I say to just about every hard core dirt track racer or fan I meet.

burnskustomz 08-19-2010 03:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbHQ01Afb8A

TheRabbit 08-19-2010 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Rigsby

Guess who I got to meet??? My friend's neighbor (Buzz something) who is now about 80 tears old & did all the stunts/jumps in the "General Lee" back in the day. He also did some work for Night Rider & some James Bond movies too. He broke his back 4 times, several injuries, only is about 5Ft tall. He was the first guy to drive a car on two wheels while in the drivers seat & perfected that stunt back in the 70's. Buzz told me they wrecked 20 68-70 Chargers in less than 18 shoots (less than 1 season) once in the Duke's hay-day... there are pictures of this guy doing stunts in the local restaurants here.... cool guy. He is on union terms & still does a few minor stunts to keep his union pay... he is a wealthy guy. He meant Waylon Jennings & some other cool stars. That show put a big dent in the Charger population... anyways, not everyday you meet someone like Buzz. Scooter

He may have done the stunts, but he didn't invent the "Daisy Dukes"!
Catherine Bach changed summer clothing forever!!
THANK YOU Catherine. :D

mopar1968 08-19-2010 11:10 AM

''Burns'' I think you might have gotten in too deep on this one :!: :!:

burnskustomz 08-19-2010 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by mopar1968
''Burns'' I think you might have gotten in too deep on this one :!: :!:

Might have!!

Scooterz 08-19-2010 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tod74

Originally Posted by Rigsby
Well Seth, that is what makes America beautiful... freedom to go around in circles in the dirt w/a car of choice. I hear ya, many a good car has been destroyed over the years... just think if you took those pictures in "1975" at the local dirt-track... it would make you sick... like Tod said.

Guess who I got to meet??? My friend's neighbor (Buzz something) who is now about 80 tears old & did all the stunts/jumps in the "General Lee" back in the day. He also did some work for Night Rider & some James Bond movies too. He broke his back 4 times, several injuries, only is about 5Ft tall. He was the first guy to drive a car on two wheels while in the drivers seat & perfected that stunt back in the 70's. Buzz told me they wrecked 20 68-70 Chargers in less than 18 shoots (less than 1 season) once in the Duke's hay-day... there are pictures of this guy doing stunts in the local restaurants here.... cool guy. He is on union terms & still does a few minor stunts to keep his union pay... he is a wealthy guy. He meant Waylon Jennings & some other cool stars. That show put a big dent in the Charger population... anyways, not everyday you meet someone like Buzz. Scooter

Are you suggesting that the DUKE BOYS didn't do all those jumps themselves? Or that COOTER couldn't really straighten and paint every panel on the car in one day?

That is right Tod... Cooter didn't do squat... lazy too. Buzz told me all those cars had 400lbs. of lead in the trunk area when launched off the jumps.

BTW: Sprint cars... I agree!! 800HP, 1300lbs, 150MPH, SIDEWAYS 3/4 the time... they deserve brass balls awards in my opinion. Not to mention, when they roll, they roll like 86 times w/ parts flying everywhere & catch on FIRE at rest most of the time too. LOL!! Those guys got it made!!!! I love sprint cars... steer like a bus too... gotta give em credit.

burnskustomz 08-19-2010 01:39 PM

Sorry if I mad anyone mad just by pointing out dirt track racers it's just what is more common around here. And like I stated before the comment about real men go straight for the finish line well that's just a joke that us drag racing fans around here say to hardcore dirt trackers. All in all this was just one of my opinions I wanted to see others views on. Thanks for commenting.

bjuice 08-19-2010 02:20 PM

Keep in Mind all of us on here are 99.9 % drag racers and some of us with round track backgrounds....i did not have any issues with you making the straightline comment..its been a long standing joke between round trackers and drag racers..just like " My car is too fast to turn left"....etc....

personally i thought the TITLE to your thread was a little out of place more so than the thread itself...sounded like you were attacking the Dirt racer (the man) instead of the sport

burnskustomz 08-19-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by bjuice
Keep in Mind all of us on here are 99.9 % drag racers and some of us with round track backgrounds....i did not have any issues with you making the straightline comment..its been a long standing joke between round trackers and drag racers..just like " My car is too fast to turn left"....etc....

personally i thought the TITLE to your thread was a little out of place more so than the thread itself...sounded like you were attacking the Dirt racer (the man) instead of the sport

I'm sorry about the title I tried to keep the title as less affending and could have probably come up with a different one to sound a little less affending on some. I placed "some dirt track racers" to lighten it but I guess it didn't help much. But was talking to a guy I mow his businesses lot for and he just got back from TX from getting recertified to race his World of Outlaw Sprint car he just built and talked about how rough it was 2 hrs in the cramped car and he has to stay in between two white lines in the turns and I now sort of realize how rough and hard it is to drive a dirt track car. Said they poured water down his back while sitting in the car. And with drag racing you make a pass then get out of the car and so on not really that much of an endurance race like I stated before sorry if I affended you by pointing out dirt trackers but the main thing was towards some of the locals around here taking the 80's muscle cars and racing them.

zipper06 08-19-2010 06:58 PM

Burns i don't think you offended anyone, but there's room for all kinds of racing here in the US. My only problem is you talk about straight line racing like you have been doing it for yrs. If i recall you only got your lic. a couple weeks ago and you want to sound like you have hundreds of laps down the QTR or 1/8 mile which is impossible unless you were running a JR dragster for yrs. There's no ligitiment drag strip that would let you drive a full size car withouth a drivers lic. at the races. Now i know you go to some outlaw 1/8 mi or less tracks in the south which you may be able to slip in a few runs. But in reality you have no seat time, i would suggest if you DO have a daily driver, now that you have your lic. go to the race track and inter footbrake class and see how good you do. I think you will find out it's not easy to be competative, especially in the beginning. You'll also find out that your vehicle is not nearly as bad or fast as you think it is. Maybe you should hook up with RaceChick who was on here last year, who was supposed to be a roundie round racer, but i guess she's a fly niter, only intrestesting in talking about her issues, since she hasn't been on in months.

JMO

Zip.

TheYellaBrick 08-19-2010 07:40 PM

RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

MEMRACING62 08-19-2010 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD
RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

shes been gone for a while, even her profile is gone

Tod74 08-19-2010 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD
RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Not to sound like a child molester or nothin' cause she is waay too young for me. But she is a cutie ... if it's the one I'm thinking of...the breast cancer survivor.

P.S. Burns there is no such thing as an 80's musclecar

cepx111 08-19-2010 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by zipper06
Maybe you should hook up with RaceChick who was on here last year, who was supposed to be a roundie round racer, but i guess she's a fly niter, only intrestesting in talking about her issues, since she hasn't been on in months.

JMO

Zip.

It was my fault, she didn't take to my chick pic bashing to well :shock: , whoops! :roll:

suicidebomb 08-19-2010 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD
RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Gee, I thought it was just me. Me bein' a grouchy old cuss and all.

zipper06 08-20-2010 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by Tod74

Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD
RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Not to sound like a child molester or nothin' cause she is waay too young for me. But she is a cutie ... if it's the one I'm thinking of...the breast cancer survivor.

P.S. Burns there is no such thing as an 80's musclecar

Todd i think you are right about cancer surviver, but if i remember correctly it was a childhood cancer not breast cancer. And maybe not too young for you, she was dating a 30 something drag racer (so she said) in her post.
BJ can shed more light on the subject since she lives only a few miles from him.
Zip.

cepx111 08-20-2010 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by zipper06

Originally Posted by Tod74

Originally Posted by DrivingMissDD
RacerChik= Drama Queen...BIGtime........ :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Not to sound like a child molester or nothin' cause she is waay too young for me. But she is a cutie ... if it's the one I'm thinking of...the breast cancer survivor.

P.S. Burns there is no such thing as an 80's musclecar

Todd i think you are right about cancer surviver, but if i remember correctly it was a childhood cancer not breast cancer. And maybe not too young for you, she was dating a 30 something drag racer (so she said) in her post.

Zip.

I agree with Zip Tod, 18 is my cut off but I'm a horndog ya know :shock: ...lol

THERATTLER 08-20-2010 04:53 AM

Zip.[/quote] I agree with Zip Tod, 18 is my cut off but I'm a horndog ya know :shock: ...lol[/quote]

DRESS SIZE 18 ???????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

suicidebomb 08-20-2010 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by maniac
Zip.

I agree with Zip Tod, 18 is my cut off but I'm a horndog ya know :shock: ...lol[/quote]

DRESS SIZE 18 ???????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

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OH my!!! That's what size I wea........ooops, nevermind.

mytmouz 08-20-2010 08:20 AM

[/quote] P.S. Burns there is no such thing as an 80's musclecar[/quote]

I was wondering when someone would finally say it, lol...

burnskustomz 08-20-2010 02:19 PM

P.S. Burns there is no such thing as an 80's musclecar[/quote]

I was wondering when someone would finally say it, lol...[/quote]

Of course there is!! Like the guy on Muscle Car TV said when he back halfed that foxbody mustang!! "it might not be a true muscle car but it's a car with alot of muscle and thats good enough for me." :lol: :lol: :lol:


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