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tazracing 01-11-2012 11:31 AM

nhra diaper rule
 
Does the nhra diaper rule go in affect this year ?

Harbone 01-11-2012 12:02 PM

heres what I found...


If you run an NHRA National or Divisional race you will need to have a diaper for the Super Comp, Super Gas, and this year - Super Street, classes. Also required for any of the "top" classes. Of course all cars faster than 7.50 (4.50) already need a diaper. The requirement for SFI rated diapers are for the Professional classes (national events) not Sportsman classes.

All correct except it does say 9.99 or faster will require a diaper or belly pan no matter what class.

There is NO wording in the 2012 NHRA rule book for any diaper in the Pro, Super Pro classes or local races.

Now, ANY NHRA TRACK can add restriction in addition to the rule book for their own track races or special events.

andamo 01-11-2012 12:44 PM

Do yourself a big favor and get one and don't wait on it becoming a rule. This has to be one of the biggest safety items along with your helmet and belts.

qtrmile2 01-11-2012 02:01 PM

Thanks for the update Chris. Don't get me wrong I'm all for safety. But my car runs A/S and S/ST. Sooooooo, When I run S/ST I have to have a diaper but don't have to have one for A/S. Makes no sense to me. Many Stock and Super stock cars run faster than 10.90.

If they say you have to run diapers in Stock and Super Stock then I have to buy two different diapers to run each class. Are they gunna make us change diapers every two years like seat belts? I'm not whinning but running NHRA is costing more and more every year. Maybe they don't want us running Stock and Super Stock. I know they hate the 90 classes.
I know pay or stay home.
Anybody want to buy a nice 67 SS Camaro?

lively 01-11-2012 02:31 PM

my words still have not changed--NHRA IS JUST AS CORRUPT AS OUR GOVERMENT----they pass all kinds of rules so you have to use their type of product-- that i promise you --THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF EVERY SINGLE TIME---REPLACING PRODUCTS EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND TO SATISFY THEM,

OH YEAH I KNOW MY NHRA SCATTERSHIELD WORE OUT FROM BEING BOLTED TO MY CAR , AND ALOT OF OTHER STUPIDITY LIKE THAT

this is exactly what will push more people to the outlaw tracks and [horrible to think] the streets to race on !!!! :roll: :evil: :shock:

TS1955 01-11-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by andamo
Do yourself a big favor and get one and don't wait on it becoming a rule. This has to be one of the biggest safety items along with your helmet and belts.

That's the best way to put it! I would run one regardless if it's required or not. You might loose a engine but save your car and possibly you.

TS1955

TheYellaBrick 01-11-2012 04:36 PM

AND you'll retain your positive popularity with the rest of the racers when and if you loose an engine. EVERYbody hates down time to clean up an oil spill.
:D :D :D

zipper06 01-11-2012 04:45 PM

There's other incentives to run a diaper, if you oil the track, the run doesn't count and you get fined if you oil it 2 times at the same event, even in time trials, you are thru at that event.

Zip.

outlaw256 01-12-2012 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by lively
my words still have not changed--NHRA IS JUST AS CORRUPT AS OUR GOVERMENT----they pass all kinds of rules so you have to use their type of product-- that i promise you --THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF EVERY SINGLE TIME---REPLACING PRODUCTS EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND TO SATISFY THEM,

OH YEAH I KNOW MY NHRA SCATTERSHIELD WORE OUT FROM BEING BOLTED TO MY CAR , AND ALOT OF OTHER STUPIDITY LIKE THAT

this is exactly what will push more people to the outlaw tracks and [horrible to think] the streets to race on !!!! :roll: :evil: :shock:

lively you are so right on this. id rather run on a backroad than i had on a nhra track.

shawnp 01-12-2012 03:33 PM

The money you invest in a diaper is cheaper than any insurance policy and definitely cheaper than the money you will have in replacing in what is lost. I have seen it too many times that oil ends up under a slick. Do yourself a favor and get a J&J Diaper on your ride.

lively 01-12-2012 03:42 PM

If they say you have to run diapers in Stock and Super Stock then I have to buy two different diapers to run each class. Are they gunna make us change diapers every two years like seat belts? I'm not whinning but running NHRA is costing more and more every year. Maybe they don't want us running Stock and Super Stock. I know they hate the 90 classes.


I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH REAL SAFETY--BUT-DO YOU HAVE TO BUY AN NHRA DIAPER [ARE OTHER TYPES NOT ALLOWED--ARE THEY GOING TO BE BAD IN ONE SEASON--]

REALLY---NHRA NEVER LEAVES ANYTHING ALONE--MOST OF THE RACERS I KNOW CAN NOT AFFORD TO RUN NHRA TRACKS AT ALL!

I CAN SEE IT NOW---THICK RUBBER SURROUNDING YOUR CAR/AND A 60 MPH SPEED LIMIT ON THE TRACK 8) :?

shawnp 01-13-2012 02:41 AM

There are SFI ballistic diapers but these are what you see strapped to the classes like TF, Funny Car, alky cars and pro mod cars. There are NHRA accepted diapers that do not have SFI tags or require recerts.

outlaw256 01-14-2012 02:33 AM

i get a good deal on diapers from the drug store here!!and they got them in xl size too!

curtisreed 01-14-2012 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by outlaw256
i get a good deal on diapers from the drug store here!!and they got them in xl size too!

Before I was able to figure out the problem with the steering on my roadster I needed those. Now I have a DRE diaper just for the car. :lol: :lol:

Curtis

markdunlap 01-14-2012 06:33 AM

diaper
 
Darrel Ridgeway Engineering. DRE. Cerro Gordo, Illinois.

enginediapers.com

He custom makes non SFI sportsman diapers for anything including drivers seats. Pricing is fair.

qtrmile2 01-15-2012 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by lively
If they say you have to run diapers in Stock and Super Stock then I have to buy two different diapers to run each class. Are they gunna make us change diapers every two years like seat belts? I'm not whinning but running NHRA is costing more and more every year. Maybe they don't want us running Stock and Super Stock. I know they hate the 90 classes.


I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH REAL SAFETY--BUT-DO YOU HAVE TO BUY AN NHRA DIAPER [ARE OTHER TYPES NOT ALLOWED--ARE THEY GOING TO BE BAD IN ONE SEASON--]

REALLY---NHRA NEVER LEAVES ANYTHING ALONE--MOST OF THE RACERS I KNOW CAN NOT AFFORD TO RUN NHRA TRACKS AT ALL!

I CAN SEE IT NOW---THICK RUBBER SURROUNDING YOUR CAR/AND A 60 MPH SPEED LIMIT ON THE TRACK 8) :?

Reason I would have to get two diapers is because I run a SB in S/ST and BB in A/S. You can buy diapers from a number of people. But NHRA has some diaper dealers in there pocket just like safety belt dealers.Sumitt and Jegs have diapers at a great price. :)

shawnp 01-16-2012 05:26 AM

[quote="qtrmile2"]

Originally Posted by lively
. But NHRA has some diaper dealers in there pocket just like safety belt dealers.

Do you personally know the diaper dealers? You care to share your insider info as to who is in NHRA's pocket?

tazracing 01-16-2012 01:36 PM

just order one from jegs 105.00.

qtrmile2 01-17-2012 05:37 AM

[quote="shawnp"]

Originally Posted by qtrmile2

Originally Posted by lively
. But NHRA has some diaper dealers in there pocket just like safety belt dealers.

Do you personally know the diaper dealers? You care to share your insider info as to who is in NHRA's pocket?

No, I don't personally know any Diaper dealers just know of them. We'll just let it go as that.

shawnp 01-17-2012 05:04 PM

Kind of a harsh statement to make. Joe West is a very good friend and I can assure you that your comment is the farthest thing from the truth.

qtrmile2 01-17-2012 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by shawnp
Kind of a harsh statement to make. Joe West is a very good friend and I can assure you that your comment is the farthest thing from the truth.

I did not make the statement to Joe West your friend did I ?
I'm sure your right about him. I don't even know Joe West and my statement didn't mention him by name. My opinion is based on that it looks fishy that you have to have a diaper on S/ST cars and not Stock or Super stock. These cars run alot faster than S/ST cars. Back to my opinion is that it seems that NHRA and dealers get together making these decisions similar to seat belts every two years. They discuss how they do things that effect the racers and in turn cost them more money.
To me it seems like it's just another way of making it cost more for the poor racers and NHRA and the dealers make out on it. If they were thinking so much about safety then why don't all classes have to wear them.
It just reminds me of having to buy seat belts every two years when there is nothing wrong with them.
Again Just my opnion

lively 01-17-2012 06:31 PM

exactly---why is my scattershield bad after using it but never had an explosion on it at all?

safety is great but this changing constantly is greed and control---yes -i can choose to run someplace else[ we go to other tracks other then our NHRA track at ST.LOUIS,MO] it is waaaaaaaay to expensive to even run there let alone compete with all their rule changes

the other line i look at is i am legal at one NHRA track but not at another NHRA track :oops: :oops:

no offense but i will stand behind my thought on this

shawnp 01-18-2012 02:44 AM

When you make a general statement, it covers all and is making assumptions.

It is NOT dealers that make out from NHRA and SFI. What do you think happens to unsold product that is either to close to expiration to sell or has expired? Do you think that RCI makes out selling the platinum belts with a 1 time free recertification? Do you think the guys that have the SFI approved diapers will be out if/when SFI decides they are only good for a few years when they have inventory that may become outdated?

You want to point fingers then start with the SFI committee and then look at NHRA. It is the dealers and manufacturers that lose money when some of these ignorant changes take place.

qtrmile2 01-18-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by shawnp
When you make a general statement, it covers all and is making assumptions.

It is NOT dealers that make out from NHRA and SFI. What do you think happens to unsold product that is either to close to expiration to sell or has expired? Do you think that RCI makes out selling the platinum belts with a 1 time free recertification? Do you think the guys that have the SFI approved diapers will be out if/when SFI decides they are only good for a few years when they have inventory that may become outdated?

You want to point fingers then start with the SFI committee and then look at NHRA. It is the dealers and manufacturers that lose money when some of these ignorant changes take place.

I see what your saying but look at the increase in sales due to mandating the products. Look at the icrease in cost for the racers. I don't have a sponsor so it's my hard earned money. I think if they are good business men they would only disgard a few out dated products. Plus I have to discard my stuff when it's not unsafe. It's not gunna change no matter how long people talk about it or gripe about it.
Like they say Race or stay home. Hell they close so many tracks we probably won't have to worry about in the next 5 years or less.

TheYellaBrick 01-18-2012 06:18 PM

Screw some tall gears in the rear, bolt on a set of 'Z' rated tires and hit the one mile shootouts !
A whole bunch easier on equipment, too .
:D :D :D :D :D

outlaw256 01-19-2012 04:02 AM

screw all the rules, im a outlaw and thats how ill race. on a lonely backroad. and bet i come home with more money in my pocket than you!!1 if i come home. hell thats how it all started anyway.and i dont mean none of that fast and furious ship either.a pretty girl flaggin me of. man that sounds dirty.lol

TS1955 01-19-2012 08:49 AM

IMO most of the rules that are out there are justified. When you have a guy with exhaust tubing wrapped with roll bar padding and says he has a cage in his car running 5.90's in the 1/8th is very unsafe. And yes, I recaged a guys car because of that. Most of this stuff is brought on by racers with unsafe equipment. But what is not justifiable is the short duration of these certifications. And I think a diaper is a good "safety net." Like I said JMO.

TS1955


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