I really can't imagine a better place for a Bill Clinton reference, than in a thread, about chute packing. He practically revolutionized chute packing, and the cigar industry, simultaneously. He'll go down in history as one of the most famous chute packers, since the beginning of this great nation. You can bet he knows how hard to hit the chute, and he knows not to use the brakes until after the chute flowers. I definately would not walk around any racetrack, and ask a bunch of racers, if you can pack their chute!!!!! You'll end up sideways with somebody, FOR SHORE!!