thanks guys for your support.at this time in my life i really needed to hear it.i dont know why i posted it, but i couldnt listen (READ) robsbird anymore.he is so arrogant it was really starting to piss me off and i had to have my say. had i run into him just a little sooner i would not have changed my veiws on god.i always wanted to believe but what i called common sence always went the other way.i needed something to believe in, to hold on to and god was there as he always has beenbut a few weeks earlier, had i read robsbird i would have just said hes one of the reasons this god stuff isnt real.hes going to help alot of people go the wrong direction, all the while thinking hes leading them to the lord.i only told my story so the people that were on the fence would see thatthis just may be the proof they need to see there is a god.and the way to him is NOT to be like robsbird. his way of acting reminds me of the extremist in the land of the sand.gods way may be harsh sometimes but i did need to be woke up and boy what a waking up i got!!lol. you boys are the reason i starting thinking about god again. i wanted some peace in my heart like some of you seemed to have.and im finding it slowly but atleast im finding it.so thanks again guys, i really do appreciate how you all have helped me. and hotrod1024, thanks for the phone calls. i really do look forward to talking to you every weekend.kinda strange we became friends and have never even met. ken