every "trader" on here is a joke. People who offer to trade actually want you to pay 5k more than their POS is really worth. I drove to meet a 50 something year old guy this weekend on a "trade"...he had to let his 16 year old son make the decision... what a joke. Seems no one on here can trade equal value for equal value.. the "tradee" or person you offer the trade to has to get the upper hand.. and I mean by a lot.. not 1 or 2k difference. Ill trade my 5k car for your 800 dollar hollar!!!! Then you will get a deal done..