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Old 01-11-2010, 07:10 AM
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Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

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As a former iver been scammed person, I say they need to be drawn out. You usually dont get results from these thiefs until you get them angry and screaming mad. Sure there is a lot of finger pointing in all directions on some of these, and it gets a little too hot too quick. But it is a nessacary evil to get to the truth. Sometimes it back fires on the original poster. My opinion they should do jail time for pre meditated theft. Its no different then robbing someone in person, its just a cowards version of it. Until you have walked in my shoes and been taken to the cleaners, please dont say they do not deserve what they have coming. I know the guy who took me I would not wizz on him if he were on fire. Sorry I am an eye for an eye kinda guy. It seems the legal justice system does not work these days. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:28 AM
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Well i was taken also and that is why i am so harsh at times, I have fun here also but on the flip side i know what it feel's like, So untill i am removed from here or told by Mod's to quit being harsh and trying like so many others to get to the truth i will continue. We all know not only are they scammers but they are also lier's and sometimes it takes different tactics to get to the truth :!: :!:


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Old 01-11-2010, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
Does that mean we have to quit waterboarding :?: :!: :!:



Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Originally Posted by fbodyjunkie
I know I'm going to get bashed here and don't care. Not that I'll respond to get a lot of needless crap going. Either post a sticky to tell new members on here what you want to see in there first post, or be nice and ask them after they messed up. How many people have you ran off by bashing them up front? This seems to be getting worse lately. I for one would not want the first responds to say something like, you need better grammer. Not everyone on here knows good spelling or how to puncuate. And I don't see spell check on here. Or how about the moderators put in a "RANT & RAVE" section for those like me, LOL. There's alot of people in racing that has had bad expreinces with people thats not on here, but looking to save someone else some grief later on. They find this section and just want to rant and share. Do You blame them? I don't post that much, but I love to come on and read the posts where Scorpion leads the pack to get justice for someone. Or just to offer someone advice on what they can do. Or even to find out who is a good seller. Guys, and I mean the ones that frequent this section, I like you all and love to read the posts, but a few of you need to think before you write. I'm sure I'll get that last line turned back at me. Help the people alittle, before you chose to make fun of them. I just think the more people that feel welcomed in this section, the more help for everyone in the long run. If the moderators thinks this post is wrong please delete it. Thanks for reading. Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to all.


Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

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No It doesnt mean you have to quit waterboarding. LOL. But you might get an all around better result on here, if you use it as a last resort. Think about this.You may say something that strikes someone the wrong way(May not even be the person your posting about). That COULD be someone that can help or enlighten YOU in YOUR future or past bad deals. But they opt not to because of something you wrote. Something to think about.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:09 AM
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I dig where you are coming from, now here is my thought on it.

Unless of course you are a scammer, I personally would NEVER hold back information that might help a guy out that was scammed............ doesn't matter what he said or wrote or whether I agreed or disagreed with their opinion. That to me is a form of tolerating a scammer.............................
I do not believe anyone in this forum would be tolerant to anyones scamming for any reason. I hope the folks holding back info rethink it, it really would be wrong let someone be a scammer.

I do believe at times we can be very harsh AND critical of the person claiming they were scammed. Usually happens when the complaint is nor verified with ad #, phone numbers, emails, etc. It has been proven to be effective at times, once a man starts lying he usually trips himself up (littlehotrod), angering someone is the best way to get them out of their game! All liars eventually get caught!

So if there are folks out there needing to make their plight public, please do it now. Be sure to include your pertinent information!

Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
Does that mean we have to quit waterboarding :?: :!: :!:



Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Originally Posted by fbodyjunkie
I know I'm going to get bashed here and don't care. Not that I'll respond to get a lot of needless crap going. Either post a sticky to tell new members on here what you want to see in there first post, or be nice and ask them after they messed up. How many people have you ran off by bashing them up front? This seems to be getting worse lately. I for one would not want the first responds to say something like, you need better grammer. Not everyone on here knows good spelling or how to puncuate. And I don't see spell check on here. Or how about the moderators put in a "RANT & RAVE" section for those like me, LOL. There's alot of people in racing that has had bad expreinces with people thats not on here, but looking to save someone else some grief later on. They find this section and just want to rant and share. Do You blame them? I don't post that much, but I love to come on and read the posts where Scorpion leads the pack to get justice for someone. Or just to offer someone advice on what they can do. Or even to find out who is a good seller. Guys, and I mean the ones that frequent this section, I like you all and love to read the posts, but a few of you need to think before you write. I'm sure I'll get that last line turned back at me. Help the people alittle, before you chose to make fun of them. I just think the more people that feel welcomed in this section, the more help for everyone in the long run. If the moderators thinks this post is wrong please delete it. Thanks for reading. Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to all.


Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

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No It doesnt mean you have to quit waterboarding. LOL. But you might get an all around better result on here, if you use it as a last resort. Think about this.You may say something that strikes someone the wrong way(May not even be the person your posting about). That COULD be someone that can help or enlighten YOU in YOUR future or past bad deals. But they opt not to because of something you wrote. Something to think about.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:05 AM
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Man, I still stand on what I said. You should take other peoples opinion into concideration when posting. Look at the people who read this forum verses the people who post replies. Why is that? Could the reason be the fear of being critized for thier views? Called dumbazz, ediots etc.... I dont condone scamming in any form. But i do understand why someone would not want to get involved with any issues in this forum.Its funny you mention Littlehotrod. Thats a great example. It went from one guy, to his whole family, to the whole state of Miss and Tenn. I aggree some of it was self inflicked, because of the 15 y.o. nephew trying to defend his uncle. But you tell me how anything in that part of that deal help Mud get his $$$ back. Just a bunch of useless flaming. And If I were from that area I would have steered clear of that whole mess even if I thought I could help.
I guess what Im saying is everybody is not the enemy.I try to keep an open mind. Hell call me an ediot, but I think Littlehotrod will do the right thing. EVENTUALLY.LOL. And I dont think all the flaming is what will get it done.I think the family will. The rest was wasted energy that could have been used to help others.



Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
I dig where you are coming from, now here is my thought on it.

Unless of course you are a scammer, I personally would NEVER hold back information that might help a guy out that was scammed............ doesn't matter what he said or wrote or whether I agreed or disagreed with their opinion. That to me is a form of tolerating a scammer.............................
I do not believe anyone in this forum would be tolerant to anyones scamming for any reason. I hope the folks holding back info rethink it, it really would be wrong let someone be a scammer.

I do believe at times we can be very harsh AND critical of the person claiming they were scammed. Usually happens when the complaint is nor verified with ad #, phone numbers, emails, etc. It has been proven to be effective at times, once a man starts lying he usually trips himself up (littlehotrod), angering someone is the best way to get them out of their game! All liars eventually get caught!

So if there are folks out there needing to make their plight public, please do it now. Be sure to include your pertinent information!

Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Originally Posted by hollowayshotrods
Does that mean we have to quit waterboarding :?: :!: :!:



Originally Posted by nvmyvettes
Originally Posted by fbodyjunkie
I know I'm going to get bashed here and don't care. Not that I'll respond to get a lot of needless crap going. Either post a sticky to tell new members on here what you want to see in there first post, or be nice and ask them after they messed up. How many people have you ran off by bashing them up front? This seems to be getting worse lately. I for one would not want the first responds to say something like, you need better grammer. Not everyone on here knows good spelling or how to puncuate. And I don't see spell check on here. Or how about the moderators put in a "RANT & RAVE" section for those like me, LOL. There's alot of people in racing that has had bad expreinces with people thats not on here, but looking to save someone else some grief later on. They find this section and just want to rant and share. Do You blame them? I don't post that much, but I love to come on and read the posts where Scorpion leads the pack to get justice for someone. Or just to offer someone advice on what they can do. Or even to find out who is a good seller. Guys, and I mean the ones that frequent this section, I like you all and love to read the posts, but a few of you need to think before you write. I'm sure I'll get that last line turned back at me. Help the people alittle, before you chose to make fun of them. I just think the more people that feel welcomed in this section, the more help for everyone in the long run. If the moderators thinks this post is wrong please delete it. Thanks for reading. Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to all.


Just wanted to bring this back to the top. It got way off subject. I think its an issue that needs dealt with.I know people that have been scammed on RJ and would like to warn others but refuse to post on here because they dont have the time to deal with the peolpe that use this forum as a form of negative entertainment. You know who you are.Your like a pack of hungry wolfs waiting to be thrown a bone. And then you want to see who can get the biggest piece.(Who can top the other ones post)Do you really believe that this helps. All you do is make people mad, and run them off. Or they dont even post at all,for fear of being bashed for one reason or another. Then the scammer lives to scam another day. Ive even seen positve post on here answered with negative comments. I dont believe this helps anyone. I respect what this forum is suppose to be for. However I dont approve of some of the tactics (If thats what you believe it is) that are used. I think if you would try to handle things in a more positive way, you would get better results. Not only that, more people would come on here and post, because they would feel welcome, as the original poster stated. And if more people post more scammers are caught. JMO

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No It doesnt mean you have to quit waterboarding. LOL. But you might get an all around better result on here, if you use it as a last resort. Think about this.You may say something that strikes someone the wrong way(May not even be the person your posting about). That COULD be someone that can help or enlighten YOU in YOUR future or past bad deals. But they opt not to because of something you wrote. Something to think about.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:38 PM
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As a person who got slammed and called everything in the book to begin with, I truly would not want it any other way. It got me pi$$ed and I said some things that I should have sat back and pondered for a little while. It also gave my scammer a warm fuzzy feeling and he just started typing all kinds of sh!t. He basically over the period of a few days buried himself and it was because of the forum BANTER going back and forth, people from all sides asking questions to get to the truth. Sometimes it was not nice, but it was a path to the truth, so oh well. Lucky for me I also had pics I sent to them. My deal is a whole lot like littledickrods. I dealt with the dad but the son was the posting idiot. They have several user names and none are even remotly close to each other. He is a total POS and his dad is an even bigger POS. They are common thieves and still use this site. He finally admitted to everything but has yet to make an honor payment even though he sold my stuff on here. Bottom line is while you want to try the nice approach, it never works and usually prolongs the issue. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't back up your mouth, don't post crap about someone. Honest people will stick it out and speak up and losers will wither away. This is business and should be conducted as such. There is no room for thiefs here.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blownalky3
As a person who got slammed and called everything in the book to begin with, I truly would not want it any other way. It got me pi$$ed and I said some things that I should have sat back and pondered for a little while. It also gave my scammer a warm fuzzy feeling and he just started typing all kinds of sh!t. He basically over the period of a few days buried himself and it was because of the forum BANTER going back and forth, people from all sides asking questions to get to the truth. Sometimes it was not nice, but it was a path to the truth, so oh well. Lucky for me I also had pics I sent to them. My deal is a whole lot like littledickrods. I dealt with the dad but the son was the posting idiot. They have several user names and none are even remotly close to each other. He is a total POS and his dad is an even bigger POS. They are common thieves and still use this site. He finally admitted to everything but has yet to make an honor payment even though he sold my stuff on here. Bottom line is while you want to try the nice approach, it never works and usually prolongs the issue. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't back up your mouth, don't post crap about someone. Honest people will stick it out and speak up and losers will wither away. This is business and should be conducted as such. There is no room for thiefs here.
Same deal as Blownalky3 for me on another site- identified the scammer, had multiple complaints against him and yet the regulars attacked me on the forum like sharks- or maybe a bit like a Master Sergeant in bootcamp.

They were tough but it was that which validated the truth- And toughened me up a bit in the ways of online forums.

So the regulars on the forum can be tough AND THEY SHOULD BE. They are giving their free time to try and help others.

I cant tell you how many initial posts have been crap- take a look at the Chitown409 or Chitownmotors post- This was the scammer trying to turn the tables with their first post- a "poisoning the well" tactic that didnt work.

If someone is legit then they should post. If they are telling the truth then it will come out.

This forum gets results. Blown I agree with you 100%.

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Old 01-12-2010, 04:07 AM
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Thanks blown, that is what I was trying to say myself!

'vettes, how about asking the folks you know to come in here and voice their thoughts on why they won't post. I find it difficult to believe folks won't complain about being ripped off because they are afraid of being "bullied" a little bit, ESPECIALLY if they have proof. If the tactics used piss them off and they leave, then it is pretty likely they didn't want the help of the forum.

I seriously doubt the tactics used (yes, I do call them tactics) will change at all in here, it seems to be very effective in doing damage to the scammer.

I do know what you are saying though, the INITIAL contact with the poster w/o any info. could be a bit more subtle. On the other hand, since they know how to post in the forum, they likely have already read it several times:
Ad #, phone number, pictures, etc.
They should already know to post that info with their original 1st post of any thread they start, having to ask for that info gets a bit old after awhile.



Originally Posted by blownalky3
As a person who got slammed and called everything in the book to begin with, I truly would not want it any other way. It got me pi$$ed and I said some things that I should have sat back and pondered for a little while. It also gave my scammer a warm fuzzy feeling and he just started typing all kinds of sh!t. He basically over the period of a few days buried himself and it was because of the forum BANTER going back and forth, people from all sides asking questions to get to the truth. Sometimes it was not nice, but it was a path to the truth, so oh well. Lucky for me I also had pics I sent to them. My deal is a whole lot like littledickrods. I dealt with the dad but the son was the posting idiot. They have several user names and none are even remotly close to each other. He is a total POS and his dad is an even bigger POS. They are common thieves and still use this site. He finally admitted to everything but has yet to make an honor payment even though he sold my stuff on here. Bottom line is while you want to try the nice approach, it never works and usually prolongs the issue. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you can't back up your mouth, don't post crap about someone. Honest people will stick it out and speak up and losers will wither away. This is business and should be conducted as such. There is no room for thiefs here.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:13 AM
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BTW, yes I have been screwed nice and deep by traderguy out of Kentucky. Stole my damn nice JD 790 4wd tractor for a '71 Vega show car!! He lied about the entire car, was a lesson well learned though! God as my witness I won't be stabbed in the ass like that again!

BTW, Keith you still suck and have not been forgotten!
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