bad experience with Tamraz
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I cruze the RJ site almost everyday and I do appreciate the "support" that you give the folks that have been scammed.
Keep up the good work guys.
As a note: The chevelle that this sheet metal went on is getting a new and improved BBC. After my pinks debut at Route 66 and they picked the 8.50 ish group (fastest in pinks history) My boo was not that fast.... so it did not get picked, but the new and improved BBC that is going in shortly (with a little spray) may be fast enough ??? You know this on going adventure to go faster is a thankle$$ but very enjoyable "quest".
Also the body man did a great job making the panels right, but it did cost me over 300.00 over the original estimate. So they "owe" me. They have lost me as a customer and if they continue to act like a fool, they will loss others, That is bad busniess pratice "in my opinion "
Good Luck Out there and stay safe, and good health to all
Jeff M.
Keep up the good work guys.
As a note: The chevelle that this sheet metal went on is getting a new and improved BBC. After my pinks debut at Route 66 and they picked the 8.50 ish group (fastest in pinks history) My boo was not that fast.... so it did not get picked, but the new and improved BBC that is going in shortly (with a little spray) may be fast enough ??? You know this on going adventure to go faster is a thankle$$ but very enjoyable "quest".
Also the body man did a great job making the panels right, but it did cost me over 300.00 over the original estimate. So they "owe" me. They have lost me as a customer and if they continue to act like a fool, they will loss others, That is bad busniess pratice "in my opinion "
Good Luck Out there and stay safe, and good health to all
Jeff M.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by bixblk
They still have not contacted me yet.......
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
They cannot sue you for any statement prefaced by the statement "In My Opinion" Thats Business Law 101.
So you can say, "in your Opinion Tamraz is Blah Blah Blah- and they cant do a damn thing.
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ok found this
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html
A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation
http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/l...ity/defamation
A few courts have said that statements made in the context of an Internet bulletin board or chat room are highly likely to be opinions or hyperbole, but they do look at the remark in context to see if it's likely to be seen as a true, even if controversial, opinion ("I really hate George Lucas' new movie") rather than an assertion of fact dressed up as an opinion ("It's my opinion that Trinity is the hacker who broke into the IRS database").
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html
A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation
http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/l...ity/defamation
A few courts have said that statements made in the context of an Internet bulletin board or chat room are highly likely to be opinions or hyperbole, but they do look at the remark in context to see if it's likely to be seen as a true, even if controversial, opinion ("I really hate George Lucas' new movie") rather than an assertion of fact dressed up as an opinion ("It's my opinion that Trinity is the hacker who broke into the IRS database").
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Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by bixblk
They still have not contacted me yet.......
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
They cannot sue you for any statement prefaced by the statement "In My Opinion" Thats Business Law 101.
So you can say, "in your Opinion Tamraz is Blah Blah Blah- and they cant do a damn thing.
Well just went to school for it, and thats how the Law Professor taught Business Law. But you know how those colleges are Tod, just full of useless propaganda, and not anywhere as fact based as the World Wide Web.
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Originally Posted by Tod74
ok found this
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html
A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/per...efamation.html
A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation
If you represent an opinion as fact it can be a cause for defamation even though its far fetched such as the pathological liar example. An opinion represented as opinion is still not a cause for Defamation at least according to my Business law professor. But what did she know, she's only a darn judge in MD now

I am probably wrong, lol.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by Tod74
Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by bixblk
They still have not contacted me yet.......
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
I must be carefull because the manager "todd" told me to stste only the facts or I would be hearing from their attorney
They cannot sue you for any statement prefaced by the statement "In My Opinion" Thats Business Law 101.
So you can say, "in your Opinion Tamraz is Blah Blah Blah- and they cant do a damn thing.
Well just went to school for it, and thats how the Law Professor taught Business Law. But you know how those colleges are Tod, just full of useless propaganda, and not anywhere as fact based as the World Wide Web.
I simply asked a question and you want to be a prick. You act as though you are a lawyer(maybe you are ) by the way you post in the scammer section about the law...so people listen to you.I just asked because If you are going to give advice that people take in good faith as accurate, I want to know if it is accurate.
While I agree you can't believe everything you read online, A five minute google search turns up MULTIPLE sites that indicate that you MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!
So pardon me for not blindly accepting information posted by YOU as fact.
http://www.muddlawoffices.com/defama...amationfaq.htm
Can I avoid being sued by saying "In my opinion" or claiming a statement is my opinion?
No. You cannot protect yourself by merely stating "In my opinion" or describing a statement as an opinion. If the statement is clearly an opinion and not based on facts (or implied as deriving from facts), it may be protected. Many times, this will be a determination made by the judge. It is essential to obtain sound advice from a knowledgeable attorney or lawyer on whether a particular statement will likely be legally considered an opinion
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in case you missed it before you got all "Smarter than You" about it.
Originally Posted by Tod74
Is this something you know for a fact, or are you just assuming? Just asking because I would think if they could prove someone cost them money they could have a case. Again,just asking,not saying you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Tod74
in case you missed it before you got all "Smarter than You" about it.
Originally Posted by Tod74
Is this something you know for a fact, or are you just assuming? Just asking because I would think if they could prove someone cost them money they could have a case. Again,just asking,not saying you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion1110
Originally Posted by Tod74
in case you missed it before you got all "Smarter than You" about it.
Originally Posted by Tod74
Is this something you know for a fact, or are you just assuming? Just asking because I would think if they could prove someone cost them money they could have a case. Again,just asking,not saying you are wrong.

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It isn't about being right.It's about you being an arrogant know it all.
here is another one
Statements of pure opinion cannot be libelous. However, simply leading off an article with "In my opinion...", publishing something on the opinion page or using the word "alleged" provides no automatic protection from a libel charge. The test is whether the expression is capable of being proven true or false. Pure opinions, by their very nature, cannot be proven true or false. Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co., 497 U.S. 1 (1990)
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You know Tod, I guess the appropriate response is "Where's my fishtank" That has been your one consistent contribution it seems on many threads. Its pretty funny I guess.
In the absence, of supportable personally obtained empirical information I would say that the web contains, generally accurate information. However, the Web also contains a fair amount of questionably accurate content. In the case of receipt of direct information from an attorney, and one qualified enough to become a presiding judge, I will comfortably share that information as accurate, and hold that up to any web-based information you provide. Why? Because I know the quality of the source. How about you on your web sources?
I have the support from the attorney who stated that was an accurate position, I attended the class, retained the text and have her name and all notes. What exactly did you have besides a URL?
And Tod, I really don't care if you want to call me arrogant, I do what I can to help people I don't know, share what I have been taught and try to check the facts before I say anything.
Or would it be better to just respond with "Where's my Fishtank?" Huh?
In the absence, of supportable personally obtained empirical information I would say that the web contains, generally accurate information. However, the Web also contains a fair amount of questionably accurate content. In the case of receipt of direct information from an attorney, and one qualified enough to become a presiding judge, I will comfortably share that information as accurate, and hold that up to any web-based information you provide. Why? Because I know the quality of the source. How about you on your web sources?
I have the support from the attorney who stated that was an accurate position, I attended the class, retained the text and have her name and all notes. What exactly did you have besides a URL?
And Tod, I really don't care if you want to call me arrogant, I do what I can to help people I don't know, share what I have been taught and try to check the facts before I say anything.
Or would it be better to just respond with "Where's my Fishtank?" Huh?


